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much. I'll hopefully turn in a little bit better outlines with what proportional representation is and those of you who wish, could contact me. RAY: Just once again to point out, all we do is suggest amendments that would go before the public. We wouldn't change anything. This body doesn't have that power, okay? The public does. You do, as a voter. BOB JACOBSON: I realize that. But certainly the weight of this many people making suggestions and then having elections and actually putting your recommendations directly into printed form before the voters, carries considerable weight and you have to admit that. RAY: Okay, questions? Mr. Santangelo. SANTANGELO: I was interested in the comment on nonpartisan because I know while I was on the Council, that came up several times and you talk, say I'm a republican, you talk with a republican, oh, dear Lord, you can't do that. One of the things that intrigues me about that and I'd ask you for your input and I was a little surprised by your opposition of that, was we were often saying, in terms of the present Mayor, he didn't have a majority and these elections didn't win by a majority. Well, in a nonpartisan, anybody could get into the primary but the two major vote collectors moves into a general if no one gets 50% and then you have a clear majority winner. How do you address that? What's your feeling? BOB JACOBSON: Well actually, if you look at the nonpartisan races across the United States, there's almost as many different kind of nonpartisan races as there are forms of government so there's not any one particular kind. Your point's well taken. I looked at the first, when I thought about nonpartisan elections, I thought this is an easy solution to things but as you delve into it a little more deeper, other factors come up like campaign donations and funding and the parties are still there and they will still be supporting certain candidates in those power blocs that you all well know exist, are going to be doing the back room support and those efforts that actually usually involve a lot of money, quite honestly because we all know how much these campaigns cost so it isn't quite as simple as that because initially when I first heard of nonpartisan elections, I went "hey, great" but actually learn as much as you can about them and it's not such an easy fix as one might think and I don't know how each of you feel about it but certainly delve into it a little more deep than just looking at the surface of it because there are some complicated aspects of it. RAY: Ms. Herkes has a question. 11