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• somehow railroad the 2000 election and be some pretty shady politics according to the public. Anyway, that's the main thing I'm worried about is that happening. The other ideas sound fairly innocuous but being that the present administration's time's up, the eight year time limit for the Mayor and we're looking at new representation, just even to entertain the idea of railroading that possibility with doing away with the Office of Mayor so the same power group, you know, can appoint a new guy as part of the same power group, the old power group - RAY: Well, just to interject there - DAWN: This wouldn't go over. RAY: There again and my understanding is, the way that works is the County Council would actually hire the Managing Director so it wouldn't be that old power group, it would be the County Council would actually - DAWN: Well, you have the existing power group deciding the outcome of the 2000 election. There's got to be some kind of illegality in that, sir. A flood of law suits. Anyway, that's about it. That's all I want to know. RAY: Okay, thank you. Del Pranke. PRANKE: I'm sorry I didn't get these to you before but there are just four pages that will help illuminate. What I want to talk about is a contradiction in the County Charter in conjunction with the Hawaii Sunshine Law and the section of the County Charter that I want to talk about is 13-20(b). I assume you all have a copy of the Charter so I didn't copy that. I find that on page 30 of the - RAY: Page 30? PRANKE: Yes, it's titled Records and Meetings Open to the Public and it's Section (b) and it says 'All meetings of the council, boards and commissions shall be held in the council room, etc. Where personal matters affecting the privacy of an individual are to be considered, the council, board or commission may, at the request of the individual involved, consider such matters in closed session.' Now if you'll look at the handout I gave you. Let me find my -. The first page under Section 92-4 of the Sunshine Law says 'A board may hold an executive meeting closed to the public upon an affirmative vote, taken at an open meeting, of two-thirds of the members present; provided the affirmative vote, etc. A meeting closed to the public shall be limited to matters exempted by section 92-5. The reason for holding such a meeting shall be publicly announced and the vote of each member recorded.' When you go down here to the Exceptions, you'll find no place does it allow for the person who is coming before the board or commission to say I want to have an executive meeting and then they hold an •