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• But my first concern is the process of how fast we do this and how open the process is. I've heard rumors that maybe there was going to be a special election before the 2000 General Election and I think that's much too fast. I think there's quite a process we have to go through which you are starting now to collect some information. We have a lot of issues. They aren't clear. There will always be differences of opinion about what's right. Then you've got to draft something. Then it has to go through a process and that takes quite a while. Did I hear you, Chairman Ray, say that this will go to the General Election 2000? RAY: No, what I said was it will be voted in the year 2000 election which theoretically could be a special election and l think what Mr. Martin was talking about. The question he framed was the question that we framed purely in sort of a "what if' scenario. I mean what if there were suggested amendments that we thought were so substantial and would have such an impact on changing the structure of the government, is there a scenario where we think that would be better acted on in special election and if you wanted to have a special election, when would it have to take place to effect the year 2000 elections and kind of working yourself back from there. So we just suggested in sort of a "what if " scenario, that's all. TURNER: Well, I think that rumor's going around that's a "what if' scenario that's being considered and all I hear is universal opposition to that. When you work it • backwards, the requirements, that, isn't enough time to have a democratic process. So I urge you to not even consider that. • A couple of people have raised a good question of when do things take effect. Do we elect a Mayor and they're only in office for a second and then they are out of office because we have a new process. I think it's pretty easy to (1) make these decisions in the best interest of the community and a democratic process and then (2) you can specify in the law that you're passing, when they will take effect. You could say that the Mayor will cease to exist in the year 2002 or 2004 or whatever you choose, and you're bright folks and I think you can do a better job than we did ten years ago and have the timing blow up in their face and suddenly you got elected and your term was different and you didn't even know it. So if you think it through and you're raising the right questions, I think we can do a good job but an election before November 2000 which is only sixteen, seventeen months away, is just ludicrous. If you have any opinion one way or the other about cave people, remember that they're all CAVERs, that's Citizens Against Virtually Every Ripoff and that would be just too fast of a process. I urge you strongly to don't even think about that. So there are several questions I've heard already tonight about Council Manager, process, partisan/nonpartisan, length of Council terms. I think those are all good things we shouldn't be deciding up -front but asking a lot of questions about and I applaud the process that you've outlined. In answer to Kevin's question about having a 12