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• problem with enforcement. Then how do you compel the County Council. I think it's their job, right? It's their job to do it so how do you compel the County Council to do their job? I don't know but maybe that - RAY: I think it's more a question of resources and logistics that - HERKES: And priorities. BOCHE: Yes, you know better than 1 and so I'm just saying what I read in the Charter and I see it not happening so I don't know. • ARTICLE IV, the EXECUTIVE BRANCH, I'm for the proposal to be put on the ballot to replace the Mayor with a County Manager of some kind for the public discussion at least. ARTICLE V, EXECUTIVE BRANCH, Planning Commission. This is just again, a reiteration of how do we choose these Members and publicly funded nonpartisan elections, by Council district or appointment by the Council Member, seem to be the two best ways and I think, you know I don't know much about the Liquor Commission and the Police Commission and there isn't a Fire Commission although I know a fireman in Kohala who thinks there should be and he will send you a fairly long list of reasons why and maybe I'II get to that here in a second. ARTICLE VI, EXECUTIVE BRANCH, the Fire Department. It's this fireman's contention, who lives in Kohala and he has wrote the operating manuals for hazardous wastes or hazardous materials handling and various other things for the County Fire Department. It's his opinion, I spoke to him this morning, that the County is at great financial risk from lawsuits because the Fire Department is not handling their duties according to commonly accepted practices and federal law. And the County could very easily be found negligent because the Fire Department is not really doing their job correctly and I don't know how to legislate it and I just point that out to you and you'll probably get some communications from at least one person regarding this and the problems he's had just getting the Fire Chiefs and the officers to understand the law. He says they don't understand the law. They don't know what they're supposed to do. They don't know what their job is so how do you get qualified people to serve as the officers of our, Fire Department or Police Department? I don't know. ARTICLE VIII, the DEPARTMENT OF WATER SUPPLY. Okay, same deal do trying to figure out how to get them elected or appointed. I also differ from Mr. Boyd on when John Ray asked him whether he thought the requirement to be an engineer is a good one. And it's stated in the Charter that the Manager of the Department of Water Supply shall be an engineer, a registered engineer and I don't believe that's a good requirement and I'll tell you why. When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 19