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you may not have the right person there. BOCHE: Anything's possible but I think that the Council Members generally have a lot of integrity and I hope that they do. And that may be true. The thing is I think one of the advantages, it's one thing to have the Mayor searching, as he undoubtedly does, to find qualified and willing people which admittedly, it's hard to do. I know myself, my geography is difficult and if I had to leave my business to attend Water Commission meetings on a regular basis. I mean I gotta drive to Hilo and not to mention County Council if heaven forbid, I should ever run for County Council. I mean it's a real hardship because I have a more than full time business and so for myself, it's real difficult but I would think that the local Council, the County Council Members would then be searching their district. If they had the power and they knew 'okay, it's my year to appoint a Member to the Water Commission, the Liquor Commission and the Police Commission', they're going to look around their district for the people that they know and who might be qualified and so you're going to have more of a grass roots access to more people and maybe a little more broader circle. And a lot of people say, and part of my attitude is why should I apply? I know the Mayor's not going to appoint me because I've testified in various situations against some of his proposals. I don't expect that he would look on me favorably even if he knows who I am which I'm not sure that he does because I'm not maybe that well know. MARTIN: Okay, well getting back to my point then. In the manner in which you're speaking ,the same thing could held true with the situation of the Council Member directly appointed. I tend to agree with what Marni was saying in that we took the opportunity to apply. I don't believe anybody twisted anybody's arms to appoint us. We just put the applications in and they came back and said would you be interested. I put a general one in. I said 'hey, whatever you need help in, I'm willing to participate in,' in ongoing county situations whether it be this Commission or any Commission at the time and it happened to be this one. So the opportunities are there and the reason I'm saying that is I see a possibility to go to the individual Member of the district per se, Council Member appointing but there may be some problems there too and I think that the way that it's sitting right now in that anybody has the opportunity to apply, is working. Okay. It's not working as well as we want because we don't have possibly the volunteers that we need. And I encourage you to apply. No problem there. Second point that I'm going to bring up. You made mention early on in that whatever we feel should be addressed in this book and possibly not just added into it, we should put it on the ballot and put it before the people so we have some discussion. I happen to agree with you except for the fact that we'd be putting the cart before the mule and that's what we're going through these meetings for right now and will go through them again before we do put it on there. We'd hate to put something on and waste everybody's time and not have exactly what the people want. So I think more interjection with the communities before we put it on is important, yes? 23