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• BOCHE: No, I agree. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't go through your whole process and have a couple of rounds of meetings but when you get down to are we going to have three or four amendments or are we going to have ten. It may come to that, or even fifteen, heaven forbid. Don't make it so - give a broader choice of possible changes rather than restrict it. I didn't mean to minimize your work because I'm sure it will be really thorough. • RAY: All right. Any other comments? Daryl. KUROZAWA: I had a question about when you talked about the Fire Department. BOCHE: Yes. KUROZAWA: There was a recommendation for having a Fire Commission and also a comment about the hazardous waste. Was the issue - is it two separate issues for you or was it that the Commission can oversee the hazardous waste issues? BOCHE: They're really two separate issues. I don't know the best way to oversee the Fire Department. I don't know how we make the Fire Department conform to what is standard practice for the health and safety of our community. People in the Fire Department who know what the law is and what standard practices are, don't know how to get their bosses - This one particular person was offered a job to implement essentially the operating program that he designed and wrote up and he refused because he said his bosses wouldn't allow him to do the right thing. So he said why should I do this? Why should I beat my head against the wall? What's the point? And so we had a situation, in his view, where the County - basic maintenance on vehicles. If the brakes aren't fixed and the County fire truck runs into the back of some other vehicle and the lawyer looks at the maintenance log and says 'Oh, jeez, standard maintenance procedures aren't being done on County equipment and this particular one hasn't had its brakes checked' or whatever it is, the County's wide open. You know, particularly with like hazardous wastes, and that's just one small part of the whole responsibility of the Fire Department. One that this particular fireman is intimately familiar with and so he didn't want any part of it. And I guess there are some, how should we say, discrimination issues in terms of if there were a study done to see who, how long people of various ethic backgrounds, how long it takes to get promotions and the make up of, say, the officers of the Fire Department relative to the general population, that the whole County Fire Department and who's ever supposed to be overseeing it could be taken to court on that basis alone according to federal law. And you know, I don't have intimate understanding and I expect you'll get communications from this, and maybe other firemen that I know, detailing this in greater detail. So I'm not really qualified to say but I do see the need, just from the newspaper articles about 24