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• recommendations to make, which I'll submit to the Secretary. It's only some minor additions on qualifications for the Commission and for the Director, that they have some experience in the environmental fields. Also, we strongly recommend that the language stay mandatory, rather than permissive. I guess that's still in the works, as mentioned on the bottom of the page here. RAY: The language, as written, it would be mandatory. RHODES: Yes, it's written as mandatory. We recommend it stay mandatory. So thank you very much. We're looking forward to helping in any way we can in the future. SANTANGELO: Jim, when you said have environmental experience, what do you mean? RHODES: I knew it wouldn't be easy. Okay, I did suggest the addition to the Administrator was an environmental experience. This was taken from being maybe just a warm body Administrator selection to someone who maybe has had some experience in the field, and would be better suited because this is a very unique department. The reason you're forming a new department is the uniqueness of environmental concerns, so I know you're looking at requirements for Directors, and this would be adding on to just administrative capabilities. Down in the Commission Statement, Section 6-5.4, this is the addition that was suggested: 'One member should be actually employed in the environmental field and the remaining members should be active participants in programs, research, or organizations in the ecological sciences'. This would give you a Commission that would be fully loaded to back up the Director, and this was the part that Recycle Hawaii was very interested in. This was where we started, and we highly recommend this approach to it so that you get the Council's ability to select these people with a little bit more knowledge in the field. SANTANGELO: One other question about just the environmental issues. What is Legos, Snoopy, and the American Mall got to do with that? RHODES: Absolutely nothing that I know of. SANTANGELO: But it is an argument going on in your home, as I understand it. RHODES: It is, and we will resolve it by the 8th. RAY: Okay. Patti Barry, followed by George Wallace. BARRY: Thank you for being here. First I'll address number 3 on the Summary of the Proposed Charter Amendment, with some additional information. Since the last public hearing last week, I have done more research, and in every area a 24