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MR. NAHALE -A: Then also, in terms of getting feedback from the various department <br />heads, is this the time we are supposed to be hearing from them? <br />MR. HOOKANO: At any time we discuss it the department heads can show up. As you can <br />see, we have our distinguished members from the Administration here, as well as from the <br />Legislative Branch. They are here for questions because we are discussing Articles III and <br />IV today. That really concerns their area so they are here to offer questions and comments <br />when that comes up on the agenda. When other Articles are brought up according to the <br />proposed schedule, then we would contact the department heads and let them know the <br />Commission is going to be discussing your portion of the Charter- -you might want to be <br />there. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: My assumption or preference would be that the appropriate department <br />people are proposing changes to us. I'm still not sure if that's during this agenda item or <br />later on during the process. When can I expect to hear from them about how they think the <br />Charter can be improved? That's what I'm still a little ambiguous about. <br />MR. HOOKANO: There's nothing to prevent department heads from contacting any of you <br />directly at this time. They could come to you as an individual and voice their concerns. The <br />proposed procedure that we just postponed would have mandated that all Charter <br />Amendments come through a Commission member. That really is, no matter which way you <br />look at it, the way it's going to have to be as it relates to this Commission. Because that's <br />what this Commission's job is. So, if a member of the Administration comes to you and <br />says, "I'm looking at this proposal," then it's your decision as a Commission member to <br />decide if you want to put it on an agenda or not through the procedure of requesting items be <br />placed on the agenda. So at this time, there is nothing to prevent Administration from talking <br />to you individually and you requesting something be placed on the agenda for that purpose. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: I have a comment. The way that I envisioned this is that we are going <br />to be discussing these various Articles and the provisions in the Articles at a particular <br />meeting and after that discussion we are either going to put something on the agenda to make <br />a proposal to amend a particular Charter Section for the following meeting and /or we are <br />going to create some kind of ad -hoc committee to investigate or take some kind of action <br />with respect to a proposed amendment. That's how I thought we were going to do it. That <br />was consistent with reading your proposed memo regarding the amendment to our Rules as <br />to the method in which proposed amendments would be submitted. Would my understanding <br />comply with how we should be doing it? <br />MR. HOOKANO: I would say, yes. I know that in the past, the former Commission, in their <br />minutes, it reflected that when they discussed the sections generally, they would go through it <br />and say, "This language in Article I looks fine." So they just moved on and never revisited <br />that section again because they felt that language already was fine. The same thing with <br />Article II, they just moved on. Article III, they went through it section by section and <br />decided whether they wanted to look at it closer or not. If they did want to look at it closer, <br />then that's when they would request information from the attorney about the background and <br />12 <br />