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MR. TORIGOE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: We are going to go back to Chapter 2, Department of Public Works. <br />We have Mr. Lee, Warren Lee. <br />(Note: At this time, Warren Lee, Director, Department of Public Works, came forward to address <br />the members of the Commission.) <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Good afternoon, Mr. Lee, does the Department of Public Works have <br />any comments regarding Chapter 2 of the Charter? <br />MR. LEE: Good afternoon. No, what I just reviewed in Chapter 2 - - -I'm not sure what the <br />Commission has on Chapter 2, but I'm here to answer any questions. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Do any of the Commission members have questions for Mr. Lee <br />regarding Chapter 2 of the Charter? <br />MS. JARMAN: I just have a question. Why does the director have to be a registered <br />Professional Engineer, do you think? This should be an Alapaki question, because he could <br />say, "You don't have to be a registered Professional Engineer, can't you just be a director." <br />So, Alapaki, ask the question for me. I'm sorry, go ahead. <br />MR. LEE: The Department of Public Works currently has about six divisions. One of the <br />divisions is what we call the Engineering Division. The Engineering Division primarily does <br />design work, and they review the plans of other professional engineers that submit the plans <br />for approval to either the Building Division or the Engineering Division. So, when you are <br />reviewing plans for a consultant, the consultant needs to submit registered engineered <br />stamped drawings. Whether they are electrical, mechanical, civil, structural, nuclear, or <br />whatever it is, there is a registered engineer system. It's the same thing with architects, they <br />are registered. <br />When you have engineers under you in the department, what they need to do to get the <br />registration is, first of all, you need to get a Bachelor's Degree or equivalent experience. <br />Then, you need to take what we call the first of the two exams, which is an Engineer in <br />Training exam, often referred to as the EIT. That is generally taken by a college graduate <br />right after getting a Bachelor's Degree. Then, you need three years experience in a particular <br />field, such as Civil Engineering or Structural Engineering, to take the State license. Some <br />states have reciprocating agreements, where, if you are licensed in one state, you can be <br />licensed in another state. For example, we have engineers that may be practicing, and have <br />clients in Hawaii, that are actually registered in the state of California, and vice versa, and in <br />Hawaii, engineers that are registered in Hawaii who have licenses in other states. The point <br />I am trying to make is that we have engineers in the department, and to be eligible to be a <br />registered engineer, you need to take the test and pass the test. Part of passing the test is to <br />have qualified by passing the EIT, which is the first test, and having worked under a <br />registered engineer to be eligible to take the exam. That's why the head of the department, <br />because you have engineers under them, should be a registered Professional Engineer. <br />23 <br />