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MR. SHUMWAY: I have one question. There is no mention at all of requirements, administrative or otherwise. I don't know if there is a reason for that or if it should be included. CHR. HAITSUKA: Mr. Ben. (Note: At this time, Michael Ben, Department of Human Resources, came forward to address the members of the Commission.) MR. BEN: The requirements for the Director of Human Resources are described in the Civil Service Statutes. MS. JARMAN: Mr. Ben, will you stay up there, please. My question is on Section 7 -1.6, we're not there yet, I just didn't want you to leave. CHR. HAITSUKA: We can go to Section 7 -1.6. MS. JARMAN: Mike, it says the Department of Human Resources shall come under the general supervision and control of the Mayor. But, if you are not appointed by the Mayor, and can't be fired by the Mayor, what exactly does that mean? Is that appropriate? Should you be housed there for some other purposes? What do you think? MR. BEN: It's funny that you would bring that up, because I think that the Council is looking at amending the Code, too. Some departments are under the administrative directive of the Managing Director, and I pointed out that mine is still the Mayor, so you can't put me under the Managing Director. To me, the only purpose of that means that my budget approval, my leave requests, all that gets approved by the Mayor. It's not to say that the Mayor decides what courses of action I take in administering the Human Resources program. But, in terms of logistics, about budget preparation and everything else, it flows through his office. MS. JARMAN: So, there's no need to change it, as far as you are concerned, just leave it that way. MR. BEN: I'm fine with it, yes. MS. JARMAN: Okay, thank you. MS. HONMA: I have one question. The appeals board, are there term limits for the board members? All the other ones have term limits. MR. BEN: Yes, there is a five -year term limit. If it's not prescribed in there - -I'm sorry I didn't bring it up - -I'm pretty sure it's prescribed in Section 13. I think everybody has five - year term limits, except for the Commission on Government, or whatever that was that you talked about. 26