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MS. HONMA: Thank you. CHR. HAITSUKA: Any further questions for Mr. Ben? Thank you, Mr. Ben. Any further discussion on Section 7 -1.6? Is there any discussion on Section 7 -1.4, or Section 7 -1.5? Let's move on to Chapter 2, Police Department. I understand we have Deputy Chief Paul Ferreira. Good afternoon, Chief Ferreira. (Note: At this time, Deputy Chief Paul Ferreira, Police Department, came forward to address the members of the Commission.) DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Good afternoon. CHR. HAITSUKA: Does your department have any questions or input regarding Chapter 2 of the Charter? DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: No sir, we have no changes or amendments to the Charter. I am here just to answer any questions that you may have. CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any specific questions for Chief Ferreira at this time? MR. UNGER: I have a question. It was about a month ago, in the West Hawaii Today, there was an article on the Police Department and the Police Commission. Tom Whittemore, I think, was the Chairman of that Committee. I'm looking for help here. There was one issue, I don't remember what it was, but it was something they specifically said they would like to take up with the Charter Commission. I meant to call him before this meeting, but I never got around to it. Do you have any idea what they could have been referring to? It was about a month ago in the West Hawaii Today, and it was pretty lengthy. DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Off the top of my head, no, but I can very well go back and look for it. MR. UNGER: I'll call them too. CHR. HAITSUKA: One of the other recommendations from Mr. Ben was to eliminate Section 7 -2.5, I believe. Do you have any comment about eliminating that particular section? DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Not the way it's written, no. CHR. HAITSUKA: Ms. Jarman MS. JARMAN: Thank you. I just have a couple of questions that come out of my ignorance that I just want to ask you. Do you think five years of training and experience in law enforcement is enough to be a Chief? 27