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MS. OSBORNE: It's probably more important than the degree. <br />MS. JARMAN: It helps to have administrative experience when managing a big department. <br />MR. UNGER: Well, we've got to decide. The five years will stay, and a degree in a related <br />field. <br />MS. JARMAN: I think just add and a degree. <br />MR. UNGER: And add in a related field. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Mr. Kaulukukui. <br />MR. KAULUKUKUI: I guess what it is sounding like is we are becoming specific. I have a <br />difficult time saying one department is more important than another department in terms of <br />how specific we get. I also believe the check and balance is in place with regard to <br />qualifications. That should be the Council's oversight in terms of ensuring the person that is <br />appointed by the mayor is qualified for the position before they would approve the <br />appointment. So, I'm reluctant to become any more specific than the Charter currently is with <br />regards to qualifications. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Is there any further discussion? I believe that Mr. Tyson couldn't be here <br />today, but I believe he said he would make himself available at the next meeting if we wanted <br />to ask him any questions. <br />MS. JARMAN: Mr. Chair, maybe we could vote to instruct our attorney to draft a sample <br />amendment, so we could then put that on the table and have him discuss that amendment and <br />then we could vote it up or down. Now, all we're doing is inviting him to draft the <br />amendments, particularly since we have a deadline for amendments to be in place. Then we <br />can discuss it with Mr. Tyson. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Is there any discussion on Ms. Jarman's proposal? <br />MR. UNGER: I think it's a good idea. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Does anyone want to make a motion? <br />Mr. Unger moved to ask Commission Attorney, <br />Levi Hookano to draft a proposed amendment to <br />Article VI, Section 6 -5.3 (Section 6 -10.3) <br />regarding the qualifications for the Director of the <br />Department of Environmental Management. Seconded <br />by Ms. Jarman and carried by the following vote: <br />Ayes: Commissioners Fuertes, Honma, Jarman, <br />11 <br />