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MR. LINGER: I know we have had this discussion before about us micro - managing county <br />titles and the requirements for people assuming these positions, but if ever a department <br />screams out for a professional degree, this might very well be it. I don't know what you guys <br />think, but I understand if we address this, we might be opening up a can of worms and have <br />to address qualifications for the other departments as well, but I think this is unique and <br />honestly I'm kind of in favor of it. <br />MR. SHUMWAY: Alapaki has spoken persuasively about not putting all of these details in <br />the Charter, but I agree with Scott on this, that especially because this is coming from the <br />department themselves. They are asking for this, and that speaks loudly for me, and I would <br />support it as well. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Ms. Jarman. <br />MS. JARMAN: I'm not convinced it needs to be an Engineering degree, but maybe a degree <br />in a related field. They are basically saying you want the person to be an engineer, but I'm not <br />convinced it needs to be an engineer, but that in a related field would make more sense to me. <br />MR. UNGER: The current language says, "... administrative experience in a related field" <br />So, are you suggesting maybe a degree in a related field as opposed to experience? <br />MS. JARMAN: Experience and a degree, if that's what it is he is trying to get at. I can see <br />somebody with some kind of other environmental background that could equally do a good <br />job, without having to be an engineer. <br />MR. UNGER: Yes, there are all kinds of different degrees out there that could pertain to this <br />type of situation. That makes sense as well. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: We could say, "... a degree in engineering or a related field ". The related <br />field would have to be related to something, so I think we have to have the word engineering in <br />there, so it doesn't disqualify someone who has an engineering degree. <br />MR. UNGER: So a degree in engineering or a degree in a related field? <br />MS. JARMAN: Related to what? Related to engineering, or related to the environment? <br />That's why I don't see why we would have to say engineering. If we just say a related field, it <br />would include engineering and any other field. <br />MS. OSBORNE: I would concur with that. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: The related field would be related to what? <br />MS. JARMAN: To the duties of the Department of Environmental Management. <br />MR. UNGER: Are we going to keep the five years minimum experience? <br />10 <br />