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• PAMELA CUSHNIE: Do you have any premonitions of conflict of • interests? FRED GIANNINI: Well, unless, (pause) typically with this sort of a thing it would be, it's difficult to say, that there is conflict because normally boards where you have like the Planning Commission if a member of the Planning Commission has a financial interest something that's coming up for a permit or something like that-- that's a clear conflict of interest but here what you are talking about, what your job is is to recommend broad overall charter proposals so I would see not very much. I would really be difficult to speculate or hypothesize on possible conflicts of interest here. Again when you get into specific details you might be talking about-- when you come to an area about certain, you know, about revamping--in some way making changes in the structure of county government--if some of you have relatives in the county government or something like that that might be something you might like to have a legal counsel on so that I think would be directed toward the commission's attorney. Again, that is something that I wouldn't want to speculate or hypothesize on what might come up. The conflict of interest that I can see primarily here is a potential of, you know, that the corporation counsel office is a creature of the charter and for us to be advising on what changes should be made to the charter might not be--that would not be totally without an appearance of inpropriety. That's why I'm being, you know, more reticent on giving you an opinion on this. ROBERT BETHEA: Well there are things that don't pertain to that. For example the interpretation on the Sunshine Laws, and I'm simply asking whether or not we should rely on our counsel or are you available for answers to those questions? FRED GIANNINI: I would say our office would be available to you until you hire, until you retain, your counsel and then I would think once you retain counsel all things should be directed to him or her whoever the counsel is. PAMELA CUSHNIE: It sounds like the conflict would come in our depending on the current administration or advice and suggestions we should divorce ourselves from contact? FRED GIANNINI: Well I would think, yeah, that would probably be the correct thing to do. AILEEN LUM: Can I have a clarification on what you mean by divorcing from contact? PAMELA CUSHNIE: No alimony involved. (laughter) • 10