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this particular birth plan. As I said, it is not S chronological. I simply tried to list subject matter areas and what we might take up. I agree with Mr. Omonaka that one of the things we need to take up right away is the commission hiring section which is Item I(D) on this proposed workplan, and I tried to list what I thought were possible people we would need, an attorney, what I call executive assistant, type stenographer and that t e of thing, and then I raised the question about commission office, commission reimbursements, if any, etc. I didn't expect to do this as Chairman. Let me just explain to the commission the thought I had about executive assistance. Akira, from your experience can you tell us whether this is a good idea or a bad idea. Discussion (Robert Bethea, Pete L'Orange, Pamela Cushnie, Jim Juvik, Patricia Poppe, Akira Omonaka, Francine Duncan, Sherwood Greenwell) about whether or not the commission should look for someone who was more than a stenographer-- someone who has organizational and administrative abilities-- a person who can summarize and research background information for the commission. It was discussed to hire more than one person to handle administrative duties as a concept. The need to determine budget, advertising in the media, how to get reimbursed. What about hearing officers rather than administrative assistants? What can they do about public apathy? Lack of information to the public could be a reason for apathy. It was agreed to hire a secretary right away. It was decided that one individual was better than two (one from East Hawaii and one from West Hawaii) for continuity. Akira stated that the commission members should follow the format set forth by the last Charter Commission in order to save time. The commission needs a good PR person and they need to inform the public from the every beginning not just before the vote. HIRING OF PATRICIA POPPE: I would get back to Akira's previous motion SECRETARY: and I would like to move that Mr. Chairman, you, be designated to go ahead and find us a secretary who would at least get these procedural matters under way. Let's at least get that out of the way. CHR. BETHEA: Is there a second to that motion? SHERWOOD GREENWELL: As lohg as it's not your secretary. (laughter) I second that. CHR. BETHEA: On that issue. You know we have compensation questions, etc. For example, should this person be an employee of the commission or, Susan, for example is it a county employee we can track for their services? Akira, what did we do? 111 AKIRA OMONAKA: The steno was strictly answerable to the commission members and in the interim between meetings and 19