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JUVIK: . . .finding a second opinion. Let ' s put it that <br /> way. But I realize the other dangers that the Council increase <br /> their own departments and so on. . . <br /> IBARRA : Yes. <br /> JUVIK : . . .and so forth. Do you see some mechanism for <br /> resolution of that? <br /> IBARRA : I think, certainly, the again, the players should <br /> be forthright in saying they 're not able to provide that kind of <br /> information that ' s requested by the Council. And -certainly, this <br /> is the time where a consultant would be necessary. Right now, for <br /> example , the corporation counsel ' s office , who represents both the <br /> mayor as well as the Council , and under the corporation counsel <br /> section, there is a provision that says if there is a necessity, <br /> the County by two-thirds vote , can hire special counsel. . .to <br /> advise. . .a lawyer. And how we interpreted this is, first of all, <br /> the counsel being the chief legal advisor of the County , would <br /> tell the Council, look, you asked me to. . . I have to represent <br /> maybe the director of the department who ' s been sued ; I can ' t <br /> represent the employee who ' s been sued because there ' s a conflict <br /> of interest, so this requires a real necessity ; now let' s get <br /> special counsel. And along that same line , I would think that if <br /> the information cannot be provided by the administration, <br /> certainly the Council should be authorized to get their own <br /> consultant. <br /> But then, you can see every question that the Council might <br /> inquire into, you say , well , I don' t trust you in; I want my own <br /> counsel. <br /> GREENWELL : And (inaudible) . <br /> IBARRA: And that' s the problem. That ' s really the problem <br /> in a nut shell. The administration and the Council have to work <br /> together as far as. . . <br /> GREENWELL : Checks and balances. <br /> IBARRA: Yes , checks and balances , and each have to carry <br /> out their responsibilities and authority under the Charter. And <br /> where we have ambiguity , like the transfer, those things are <br /> raised. . . <br /> BETHEA : We ' ve been at this an hour and fifty minutes , and <br /> we ' re going to have to get some other business done. What ' s the <br /> pleasure of the commission? Mr. Ibarra, I 'm sure on another <br /> occasion if we asked you very nicely , you' d probably be willing to <br /> come back? <br /> IBARRA : (Nods yes. ) <br /> BETHEA : Is there something else that you particularly want <br /> to emphasize now? <br /> 52 <br />