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CUSHNIE: That ' s services (inaudible)? SEWAKE: (Inaudible. ) CUSHNIE: . . .debt service is the word I was looking for. I believe the County is limited to a prudent level of 18 or 15% debt service to. . . SEWAKE: Along there, appraised property. CUSHNIE: . . . of the other appraised property? And you have no such limitations? SEWAKE: Well , what we do is , we. . . since it ' s general obligation bond, it would be under the County limit. But whenever we have a bond float , I guess , it ' s kind of programed with our rates (inaudible) and it would be a County variance. I don' t know if I answered your question, I mean, but that ' s one aspect of it anyway. CUSHNIE: Uh-huh. SEWAKE: So it ' s roughly about ten cents per $800 , 000 (inaudible) . CUSHNIE: You could therefore issue bonds in any amount that you wanted or sell bonds? SEWAKE: In any amount that we feel our customers are willing to pay. I would like to mention that I think really what helped us get us on our feet was the Legislature and. . .and I got to give credit to people like Bill Chong and Bill Thompson and Akira, who really went to pursue grants-in-aid from the Legislature, which is free money. That ' s why we didn' t have to float so many bonds all this 40 years. CUSHNIE: Uh-huh. SEWAKE: And if you look at our. . . the last page of the. . . if you look (inaudible) in service, 1949 was a million dollars , and right now it ' s $105 million. I think a good deal of that was because of their efforts in getting free money. BETHEA: You said in your presentation that the main source of funding comes from your customers . I had a question. What other sources of income did you refer to? SEWAKE: Well , our operational sources (lost some conversation in tape change) and also, we have facility charges to developers , which is (inaudible) type fee. BETHEA: The facility charge is designed to help defray the capital expenditure portion? 93