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indicated that you require , has that ever shown its head in the form of litigation against the County, dealing with liability from accidents which the County is deemed to be at fault, at least in part, from inadequately maintained road ways or associated. . . ONO: I 'm sure there ' s an effect, although I believe that our experience over the past four years, now in- our fifth year, is that there ' s been a reduction in the number of claims and suits being filed. JUVIK: Is that pretty much. . . ONO: We see less success on the people filing suits; and to be quite honest, I can' t say that that ' s because we ' re doing a better job. But we are trying to document things a little bit better and show that what we ' re doing with our limited resources is reasonable. And, of course, we have a . . . good defense lawyers that are defending us . I think that has helped, the aggressive nature of our Corporation Counsel . BETHEA: Are there other observations , or questions? L' ORANGE: Just one observation. Bruce, you don' t think (inaudible) unnecessary staff . CUSHNIE: Mr. Chairman? BETHEA: Yeah. CUSHNIE: Let's see. Along the lines _of .raising income for.the County, have you considered toll roads? ONO: Yes . CUSHNIE: Okay. ONO: I. . . the toll road would have to be a function of the volume of traffic that is generated. So the improvement would have to be to such a degree that it would attract ridership. CUSHNIE: Such as the Saddle Road. ONO: I 've never felt extremely excited or enthusiastic about going in and doing the Saddle Road. We 're looking at an expenditure of about $110 to $130 million to put that road into a condition that would attract . I 'm not sure the rider- ship would be there to retire the debt service. CUSHNIE: And the second question that came up last . . . or during the last meeting when (inaudible) Mr. Sewake, in 138