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considered very progressive vendors at the time. And there. . .as I mentioned inhere, the existence of this commission is a progressive measure, the fact that this is set to do what you do every ten years . So it would be an. . . it would be a. . . it would be a radical move. There are . . .they do exist on other levels of course in states . And the literature is rich with the examinations of the. causes and effects of privacism. . . systems that (inaudible) . I don't think it's an accidentas I mentioned in .the paper. I don't ' think it's an accident ,that. ;I gave the example before (inaudible) . More research would have to be done to (inaudible) examples to make sure, but the cost of County government for counties with _our ... .whose campaigns are funded through private donations , comes directly out of the taxpayers ' pockets . Businessmen don't contribute, or labor unions or what have you. . .don' t contribute large amounts of money to political campaigns without any expectation that they will get something in return. And that 's fair enough. It' s no coincidence. . . it ' s no coincidence that when you look at the expenditure reports for campaigns and you look at a list of who did business with the County, and you can look at who has business before, commissions , boards , etcetera, and you find they are many of the same people. I wonder why? The taxpayers are paying for it. And it `doesn' t. . . it hasn' t happened much if at all that I saw on the local level. . .on the County level. What has happened incidentally are restrictions . I know that you know of examples of severe restric- tions where. . . in. terms of, how .you can spend your money, those. . . GREENWELL: Land use. SMITH: Right. And those types of restrictions . And that ' s. . .that' s due . . .the thing that . . . BETHEA: Excuse me, I don' t understand that. It just passed me by. Mr . Greenwell, you said land use. And (inaudible) . GREENWELL: (Inaudible) that ' s where you find all the contributions to candidates comes from those who are involved in zoning and upgrading their use of the land. SMITH: How common is it in. . .and I don' t know the answer to this . How common is it in Hawaii County govern- ment for officials elected or otherwise to exempt them- selves from decisions in which they have been. . . in which they have either been involved in fund-raising or they have given money to the administration? It happens in the court system. Does it happen in the County at all? 177