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BETHEA: It doesn' t take care of that. GREENWELL: You don' t think so? BETHEA: Absolutely not. It . . .all it says that you. . . a written set of charges plus a hearing, it ' s still 4 votes . GREENWELL: That ' s right. But it ' s still going to make the people (inaudible) going to those four votes think before they take a position. JUVIK: I think there ' s some way to. . . BETHEA: Yeah, I certainly think it could bear procedural due process . VIERRA: Right now the number of votes is left up to the commission to decide, and obviously the last vote can change from a 5 to 2 to a 4 to 3, I guess that could change again back to a 5 to 2, whatever . I don' t. . . it 'd be nice if it ' s in the Charter so that we guard against any abuse of the system. CUSHNIE: Perhaps we might even look in a completely independent body to hear complaints and allegations of misconduct, completely independent of the Police Commission and Fire Commission (inaudible) . I also might point out to continue Chairman Bethea ' s comment about the (inaudible) of power and who we report to, § 7-2.7 also says that you come under the general supervision and control of the mayor , which I find further limits, if not your responsibilities , at least your power . Much house cleaning. OMONAKA: Mr . Chairman. BETHEA: Yes . OMONAKA: Would you have problems , Chief Vierra, with the last provision under the (inaudible) where the mayor has supervision over you? VIERRA: No, I think the chief has to be accountable to someone. He ' s part of the County team. The mayor ' s still gonna be in control of the budget so he has (inaudible) . OMONAKA: (Inaudible) natural disaster and these kind of things ; somebody got to be in charge okay. (Inaudible) your department (inaudible) . VIERRA: Yeah, I have a little problem with that particular provision. 203 ik