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functions as a separate paragraph. Lum: Questioned how budget would be figured. L'Orange: Suggested asking the Finance Director how to word the funding portion. Juvik: Does not need particular amount of funding. Greenwell: Feels that some set funding should be made available immediately. Offered proposed language (Exhibit D) for consideration. Yuen: Proposed wording offered by the committee is in conformity with the rest of Charter language. Suggests Charter members discussing concepts and Mr. Yuen organizing how it will appear in Charter. Hand Count : Bethea: Asked for opinion on whether the Police Commission should submit a separate budget to Council to carry out investigative and other functions . Further discussion took place. Motion No. 3 : Dr. Juvik made a motion that Mr . Yuen be directed to adjust the language in the proposed draft as it relates to the budget of the Police Commission; and such language should indicate and reinforce the language Mr. Greenwell presented [Exhibit D] to best strengthen and insist that funding will exist for the Police Commission; also that the Police Commission submit a separate budget to the Council and be so stated in the Charter. Ms. Duncan seconded the motion. Further Discussion: L'Orange: Cannot imagine the Police Commission requesting a budget from Council . Juvik: Budget should be submitted through mayor ' s office. Duncan: Suggests extending the motion to include that Mr. Yuen may consult with the Finance Director re same. Juvik/Yuen: Whatever the Charter says will be observed. Bethea: Emphasizes that the motion will state merely that Police Commission will have funds necessary to carry out its functions . Juvik: Important item is that Police Commission have the appearance of being separate and independent from the Police Department . Motion No. 3 Count: In favor: Mr. Greenwell Against: Mr. L'Orange Mr. Bethea Mr. Omonaka Dr. Juvik Mr. Nishikawa Ms. Duncan Mr. Fuertes Ms . Cushnie Ms . Lum Motion fails. 735