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on non-partisan has s? In county government lore is no room for party politico , -the. case of your ccumy building bc'ng one of them. 2) Matter of apportionment. In setting up the manner in which your councilmen or supervisors or chairman is celeste 1 is very important. We have to get away from West vs . East thing. We can get away from this form by proper re- apportionment. e- apportion:ment. As tar as voting for a person, I like the idea I k< . of the person comii,t; from a district, hut a larger segment of N the population voting for him as. well, However, perhaps with kms. the stipulation that you. must be a resident of, e.g . Hamakua ';• to rep resent~ that district- -but you' re not responsible for just ' one district but for the entire isInd0 3) Form of government, strong mayor vs . county-manager. I'm in favor ef `:he county- manager form of government. I feel that council-mLaocger form of government is one taken away from politics , running as • .individual away from either party and one of electing suchpsople by proper apportionment. • Koehn.en: We have been going along with the assumption that both council-manager and strong-mayor form actually has in thesis • the separation of administration and policy functions . And this is perhaps less true in the council-manager form although it is still true in one sense, in that your administrator administers but he has no executive-legislative voice contrary to our state • and national system. Do you definitely favor such a separation? Osorio': I'm all in, favor of this, of separat-;_ng administrative • - and policy-making. I think this can be worked through even with council-manager form of government `':here separation can be made, policy-making vs . administrative. You were using terms that again may mean defining administrative vs . policy-making, procedural vs . political. James : I was trying to distinguish between the term separation of powers which has to do with real powers of government with • . mere distinction. between power itself, or the distribution of activities whereby the council is going to have- to decide what to do, in the long run. And the how to do it is assigned to somebody else, but this is not really separation of power. In the local level, council vs . manager form of government, manager isn' t at all likely to come out with a fundamental political • thought.- Osori.00 I still see a separation compared to a strong-mayor form of government where, in the mayor s:i•::uatton, he is elected, • he develops his own program, he sets up hi.s own budget, he goes - to the council where he submits for approval or disapproval . In the every day administration function of operating county government, there is a separation. You can separate responsibilities even in the county-manager form of government. James : I don' t think you cane • - . Koehnen: . When the supervisors were here we were basically discussing strong-mayor form and the question carne up as to how they felt about power of veto if under the strong-mayor system. Osorio: If yoti were to recommend a strong mayor form it should be a veto and also •a right to override the veto. Loweth: You said the program is spelled out by the council under the council-manager program which means in effect : the budget is done by the council. What is your feeling as a. supervisor about~ the ability of the council under a strong-mayor to declare the program?