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411 Osorio: When I said the council sets up the program then you • would IJ3lI1(_2 p,lcy )lr`• 41 p budgeting Al ^ total p rn(;r c e The tanager could do this himself. He is a full-time man. Ho can then present: it to the council . I think it would work as strong- mayor form, but not as a one.-man show . because than he would have the say, where the money is coming from. Arakaki: At the previous meeting when other board members appeared, they said that. they would like to have consent and approval for appointments by , ; e strong mayor. Can you explain your position on this? • ' • Osorio: I think my position will be pretty much like Mts. Hale L s . As far as department heads , if I were a mayor, I would like to appoint my own department heads who would be responsible. to me only, and if they failed it was because I failed. There are certain ^Y a. 1 C0i277ssiC1s I think, Cb ^C1 should bewith a • .. . . the cnnsent of the Eoardo These are rc?r_esentative of districts so that a councilman from a particular district is perhaps in a better position than the mayor to make a recommendation. The advise and consent in commission, yes ,- e.g. , Hospital Managing Board, Board of Water Supply. • • Kawahara: Do you suggest that where the chairman appoints various department heads that you suggest in case they didn' t operate very well, that department heads go out with the appointing person? In case of council and manager—where a manager doesn' t operate to the satisfaction of the people would you place the responsibility on the manager or the council? Osorio: There may be situation.where majority of the council are for this person--it seems to me then that those responsible who form the majority should be held, responsible to the people. Kawahara: A point was made that the city or council manager form will take government out of politics . I presume you meant partisan politics? Even if you do have this as' nor- partisaf council , wouldn' t you still have politics Osorio: I meant partisan politics . I can' t see where paving a street, putting up street lights , selecting a site for county building, urban renewal , whether I as a Republican or I as a Democrat will vote one way or another because I belong to a party. When it comes to philosophy of party, one vs . other, it .doesn r t. exist in county government—perhaps it stops at the state level of the legislature. Kawahara: Under a non-partisan set-yap, would you have staggered terms or would they be elected at the same time. James: There is no necessary connection--in most cases staggered. Loweth: With regard to sewer, light, road, not necessary parti- san san political issue--in the example given by Mr. James , trash or garbage collection seems to be one that is . It' s free enterprise vs . state collection and I think you can bring this into almost everything . Is putting out sewers to bid on a private enterprise basis with private stocks or govcLament putting in Sewers? Osorio: This free enterprise isn' t necessary in total a Republic feeling -- I'm speaking - more in issues such as civil rights where there is a distinction between, particsk or foreign aid. . - -7-