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i, comr sions . . So it's a combi ' on of county manager • - commission form. The Sacrameno one is quite the opposite . They have a . county manager- system where the county manager appoints almost every department • head and, perhaps some of you might want to . comment on . the- advantages or disadvantages of each one in " connection with 'administrative authority. Sometimes in looking over this chmoter, I' wonder how the voters actually visualize this function under the charter. Chairman Kimura:• Fred, in reference to the system whereby the executive, whether it be a manager or a ma;►or,.. w.;:.o has a very diluted kind of power, I think we are just coming back . to the present situation that we - have . If we are going • to have a charter and the council is going to• be ... basically the legislative policy and that type of a responsibility, than the manager or the mayor should • have the executive power to c:crate the administrative responsibility of the county government . And I think . . whether it is manager or mayo_•, he should have that kind of power and authority to. c:o it. Otherw ' it • is a highly diluted form of administration again . But in 'reference to Sherwood 's discussion about the size of the council being related to the manager, I grant r • you, I think there is. a problem if you. : -:.-e all single 'districts . If •you ::.^.ve all- single districts and then . if you have a manager, they run into this problem of each guy being a lord of each area, but • I think if you . had a combination or r,ultinle and Kau. maybe . because of its ,limited size may have only one but Kona may • • . have a multiple of three or whatever the percentage - comes up with.• -:.. can :: .. : _ _. 'o and • this kind c f t.._ • a. :' : . : the magic number, I think when you start talking about managable numbers , I think - the- commissions in the past have been more on cost . . . • Say if we gave Bill one for Kau, this would mean at $600 a month at 12 m:.on;;hs , ��7, 20() or a liberal $10, 000 a year. But I think at $10, 000 n year for the 1-,istrict of Kau to have a representative, a direct representative, _ • . it is certainly -worthwhile . So •I think that considera . tion of cost has to be balanced .with the representation our island gets . So I dcoa.'t think thirteen is -unmanagable or fifteen, simply because we have. a large island here and have no other local government. We have only one centralized county- government. And I feel. for those particular rural areas . I think they . £hould have represcntaticn. - I. doi1't think we should . stick to the magic nur:bor.. On the limitation of terms, I am talking about the Mayor, not the manager. The manager should serve at thee will of the county. • Koehnen: I have one additional '-uestion. concerning the appointed - county executive . Statistically, this form 'works well and generally is considered to be alternate form as far as local government is concerned in terms of - • efficiency and what have ev u. This is one of the . . . recommended forms of the ational Association of • Counties and many other org ani_actions in this field . - Hoiic.ver, it is also usually recommended along with . . . non-partisan • . - Chairman Kimura: Fred , I am thinking out lc'td. in that area. Of course ' : the ialand of Hawaii., wheLh-:r it is 80 or E5 per cent, . - - vary considerably in that a percentage are non-partisan. • . So with that kind oi' a history, I thin'.: non-nartisanship - would be a logical sequence to follow.- But all of us here know really in County gc vernm-ent, more of them - , - are -non-parti:3au to begin with, •c):cept for certain a . appointed thing. . It. ray b,:co e partisan but from the .. 22 ..