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stal'oint of actual projects anything like it, it ' . dlviZres more .into East and Westwrather than on partisan lines like Greenwell or Matayoshi or like that. So . I grant you in a county_ government the partisan doesn 't play that. much -of a role, but the other side of the coin too, when you look at the partisanship in the state level and the federal level, we do have down the line, democrats and .republicans . We may be forced into a situation where everything else is a partisan situation and the voters , I think, pretty much vote that way to begin with. They put labels. They know whether June Lewis is a Socialist or a. Communist. So I think they already put labels on them. If the county government should go the other way on non-partisan, , we may have that kind of a problem, although I recognize that most of the city manager type of administration or council manager are non- partisan in nature . Greenwell: I think the non-partisan idea_ is a very good one . Looking back over the years I- have been on the Board, I can recall instances where good government or good legislation has been turned down because of partisan fights . Changes in administration or changes in partisan are known to have held back good legislation for a matter of four months or more because if one • side has suggested it, the feelings of the other side cannot tolerate it just because it comes from the other side . And as a result, good legislation has been prolonged. . Herbst: •I have a. question.. Would the legislative auditor be on a contractual basis? Chairman Kimura: No, I believe the legislative auditor like the State • . has would serve at the pleasure of the council . . Herbst: On this limitation of term, you direct- that at the . mayor 's, position only, not 'atthe council. r Chairman Kimura:- Right, because in terms of the. council, Art, the changes come about not rapidly or..where you have in Kauai where five of the seven changed at one time . The council, where legislation -is concerned, does have changes , old ones retired , r defeated and that • type of thing, and you don't have all of the tremendous powers , executive powers of the mayor. In the period of one term, if you employ 200 employees , you do business with a great number -of the businesses, _ . architecture, engineers , etc . and so often as these people become entranced, it is quite difficult to remove them and. this is the •- concern that I have in the area of responsiveness and of having the change after you allow a person to have , an opportunity to implement his ideas or programs . And I think I would , as a citizen, rather have some- .thing build -into the charter which would afford a guarantee change . And weighed against it would be , what would you do with a good man . When Dwight • • Eisenhower had to leave , this type of thing. I am sure that if there was a two-t'e.rm on- the State governorship,. Nr. Greenwell would have the same sorrow at seeing that changeover, but this is the kind of a situation we have to see ; I feel very strongly that in local • government you are so -close and - powers are so much, • and human beings %no matter who they are , I haven' t met one yet who can have a perfect perspective throughout the individuals career. And the mayorshi.p for, instance, in this area, the chief executive, the -23 - . ,