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t <br /> mayor, the ,p.wers are really 'tense. The ties <br /> .- . that you make are quite intensive, so I would like <br /> . to see this kind of a built-in change that would <br /> come about. . <br /> Herbst: One other point, the city I think has a city manager- <br /> council. type government, .but I 'can't remember who takes <br /> • over the duties . • . <br /> Chairman Kimura: My understanding on that, Art, is, at least by practice, <br /> the appointed mayor who is in effect the chairman of <br /> the council is an individual who does most of this <br /> protocol work and Fred at one time figured this out <br /> for me . He and -I disagreed. . He said that 60. per <br /> ' cent of an elected chairman or an official 's position <br /> is spent on what you call protocol, including making <br /> speeches at various organizations. I think it was <br /> more like 40 per cent but maybe he was telling me <br /> something here . Basically, so much time of the <br /> chairman or mayor is spent in much of protocol • <br /> • . work which is part of the job and in this area under <br /> a council manager, Art, my understanding is that the , . <br /> chairman of the council or the mayor who is the . <br /> chairman of the council would be the one doing all of <br /> this protocol work which includes presenting keys , <br /> shaking hands , kissing girls and be judge at a • <br /> beauty contest and all the other difficult work I C <br /> have to do. . <br /> • <br /> Koehnen: ' Do any other members or any of the Supervisors have <br /> • "questions of the commission? There is one other item <br /> that I would like to bring up. for discussion. This <br /> is the desirability or non-desirability of including <br /> the Hatch Act for county employees . . <br /> Chairman Kimura: Any comments? • <br /> Greenwell: Firemen? <br /> Chairman Kimura: Fred, let me lead off on this 'touchy question. . <br /> . Initially this is my thinking. I am thinking . out <br /> loud here . There are two factors. One is the <br /> freedom of the individual to do what he wants as <br /> long as he does his job in the civil service . The <br /> other factor is really security and protection for <br /> that civil service, that the civil service system does <br /> work at least to a great project than it does at the <br /> present time ., And I think a complete Hatch Act like <br /> the Federal Government does much in this area . This <br /> • . doesn 't prevent the guy from donating to the party of <br /> his choice or even doing some sort of limited party <br /> . activity, that type of thing. But in terms of a <br /> local government where the employees are close to , <br /> . individual politicians or to the chairman or members <br /> • of the Boas;. Thereis much to argue for a complete <br /> Hatch Act particularly for those individuals who do <br /> law enforcement work like the public inspectors , building <br /> , :. inspectors, plumbing inspectors , fire inspectors , the <br /> policeman, the liquor inspectors , all these people . <br /> In fact, I think the liquor inspectors at the present <br /> time under law are barred from participating. So I <br /> think in this area of law enforcement, it would be a <br /> good idea. My recollection, Fred; I think the <br /> Police Commission or the Police Chief has recommended <br /> that, the }latch Act should be a protective device for <br /> the .civil service . It may not be perfect, but this <br /> is my recollection in testimony in the past . I think ' <br /> that factor of the protective device does much to add <br /> to the security of civil service. The other argument ' <br /> • <br /> - 24 _ <br />