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MR. TRULSON: You know their reasons for that? <br /> MR. SILVA: Well, I would think that part of the <br /> reasoning is that in many of the jurisdictions there' s just no <br /> training money and the development of government personnel, <br /> especially qualified supervisors and managers, safety, which is <br /> under OSHA which is also very important developing people with <br /> knowledge in safety and the Highway Safety Act, mandates the <br /> training of equipment operators with equipment over, I believe, <br /> 10 tons, many of these things, are now mandatory under the law <br /> and people have to be trained to carry out the functions. The <br /> Counties have been slow in the development of training. <br /> MR. TRULSON: Perhaps, what is happened the counties <br /> maybe don' t have the money for it, so the state has taken over the <br /> training instead of each individual county? <br /> MR. SILVA: Actually, what has been done is that <br /> they have just created another resource which the counties can <br /> draw on. In other words, if we needed equipment operator training, <br /> or if we need an instructor on safety or we need an instructor on <br /> executive development, we can go to the state advisory committee, <br /> state our needs to develop a program then we would draw from that <br /> source. But it doesn' t make much, I can' t say it makes much sense, <br /> but it' s better if we have a state-wide and coordinated training <br /> programs because if you develop, let ' s say, a safety instructor, <br /> if you start from one end of the state, by the time it' s finished <br /> with the other end, it ' s time to start over again because people <br /> retire, people die, people get promoted. And as it is right now, <br /> if you want to get somebody to train any specific area, it' s <br /> difficult to determine who the qualified people are to train in <br /> those areas. There' s no specialized resource. So with the <br /> development of the state-wide training plan, one of the objectives <br /> is to develop a central resource. If you say we need training <br /> in safety, we can go to these resources or you got so-and-so in <br /> your community, that' s a qualified instructor, or they can say <br /> you can go to the community college they have a :pfogram or they <br /> may have experts in the state building and they may furnish the <br /> training for you. There ' s certain kinds of training, I feel, that <br /> the state could establish on a permanent basis like in safety, <br /> supervisory training, equipment operating training and I'm sure <br /> there' s a whole lot of other areas where they could actually <br /> establish a faculty to work eight hours a day on a continuous <br /> basis. Because I know that by time they get finished going <br /> through the state, as I have pointed out, it will be time to <br /> start over again with the new employees who have come in and also, <br /> maybe after three years or four years or five years, to have <br /> refresher courses in some of these areas. But as it is today, <br /> if you want somebody to train in an area, you got to do some <br /> searching. And you still may not come out with people that you' re <br /> entirely satisfied with. <br /> MR. TRULSON: This is the type of program that the <br /> heavy duty equipment operators have, I see them practicin.g— down <br /> here. A gentlemen comes up from Honolulu, where he works for the <br /> state, and he trains the people who will become trainers or is <br /> the supervising field: <br /> - 21 - <br />