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five, right? Running specifically from that district and the <br /> people from that district vote for him. Then the remaining <br /> two or four whichever way this body decides will have at <br /> large members. You see, so that there would be no residence <br /> requirements to run completely at large. <br /> MR. TRULSON: I misunderstood you. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: Mr. Mayor, do you think your proposal will meet <br /> the constitutional test once you go into a district kind of a <br /> setup for five councils and two or four at large. <br /> MAYOR MATAYOSHI : I think the one man and one vote, Akira, is <br /> what you are referring to, right? I think it will satisfy for <br /> the simple reason I think that the House will be kind of "out <br /> of joint" as it were. Something wrong with the State House <br /> if it were not the case. So you've got five and the remaining <br /> at large members , now everybody has one vote, one man, one vote. <br /> So I think it would satisfy. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: In terms of running for office, you know the <br /> expenditure; it takes if you have to run island-wide as compared <br /> to the candidates running from districts , as an example. <br /> Would this be kind of unfair in terms of expense? <br /> MAYOR MATAYOSHI : Well , I think at that point, the candidate <br /> will have to bite the bullet. Which way is he' going to go? <br /> And I recognize that the one running at large may be costing <br /> more but also it might be that the newspaper ads and things <br /> like that for the district guys here would be about the same, <br /> I would think. To me, it doesn ' t make any difference. A guy <br /> wants to run knowing the costs, he would run accordingly. <br /> I 'm also not saying and I think that the common part of the <br /> other charter commissions were that those that do run at large <br /> would,probably be the Chairman of the Council . I think not. <br /> The Chairman of the Council should not be merely the one that <br /> runs at large but from all seven or nine members should elect <br /> their own. Their own Chairman of the Council . <br /> MR. SCHUTTE: Mr. Mayor, would you say that under the existing <br /> setup that the councilmen running for a particular district <br /> relies unnecessarily on the district that he is supposed to <br /> evaluate. That the other big vote getting district such as <br /> the Kona district and the Hilo district on the development <br /> issue for his election. And as a result, he would not have <br /> to rely on the people he is supposed to represent for his <br /> election. Would this be possible? <br /> MAYOR MATAYOSHI: Right now, it is, I would think. I think <br /> some of them have lost in the district and have won at large. <br /> And are representing the district. And this is why I 'm saying <br /> that I am kind of reversing my original three times around. <br /> -10- <br />