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MR. SCHUTTE : So they are just duplicating <br /> what you would ordinarily have to do. <br /> MR. FUKE: All the commission does , in a <br /> sense, is narrow down the scope_ of discretion that the <br /> Manning Director has. Especially in judgment areas where <br /> the building should be painted off-whiteor brown. Wetter <br /> the building should have a mansard roof or a shake roof or <br /> totan or what have you. These are the kinds of authority <br /> that is presently given the Planning Director in terms of <br /> the design of the building and to have some public input by <br /> having a commission provides a useful function right now. <br /> MR. CADINHA: It sounds to me like we have <br /> a classic line and staff type problem. That the planning <br /> function, the futuristic aspect of what your job should <br /> entail , is not being done because there is no time to have <br /> it done. Is that accurate? . <br /> MR. . FUKE? Maybe I can respond by backing <br /> up here. Our Planning Department is just like Kauai. In <br /> the sense, that we have both regulatory and planning functions. <br /> Regulatory in the sense that we ii;ssue the building permits <br /> and we issue subdivisions and whatever have you. The <br /> planning function determines that we get involved in the <br /> general plan, the community development plans , those areas. <br /> Maui County has a department of general planning that doesn ' t <br /> issue permits or issue review plans and things like that. <br /> Purely planning. Their building and subdivision functions <br /> have been assigned to the department of public works. It is <br /> kind of created like a separate branch. The CI.y and County <br /> of Honolulu in the beginning had one department. Then they <br /> split up and they created a department of general planning <br /> and a department of land utilization. <br /> I studied this thing quite thoroughly as <br /> we went through every organization and, quite honestly, I <br /> couldn ' t agree, at this point in time, given the size and scale <br /> of our operations that we should separate the regulatory from <br /> the planning functions and reason being that , and I guess I <br /> only reflect on the City and County ,of Honolulu, is that they <br /> have a, difficult time in trying to understand what thecurrent <br /> problems. are because the' '.planners are only looking at tomorrow <br /> and not recognizing what the problems of today are. <br /> By having the :guys call me on the phone and <br /> ask me, what are you guys doing? Yet, at the same time,' being <br /> mindful of the long range planning considerations , I cannot <br /> help but feel that we would have a brand of planning which <br /> would be more responsive to the current and the future needs <br /> of society. Having a separation creates too much of an <br /> administrative kind of problem and planners tend to be too <br /> ivory towerish. This is the problem that we face, right now. <br /> In talking with the planners at DPD, for example, on the state <br /> level , they;§cen<;'it understand why we don ' t want DPD telling <br /> the counties what kind of regulatoryaspects they have because <br /> 31 <br />