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MR. ZUZAtt: -1VAWe feel that if it is within, <br /> for example, the department-of public affairs that the <br /> liquor control can be effects ver asc_ ell within the department <br /> as it could by commission. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: If that be the case, under the <br /> present procedure, then the Mayor would essentially have the <br /> authority to grant or deny anypplication for a liquor <br /> license. Would that be one of the powers you would want the <br /> Mayor tip, have? <br /> MR. ZUZAK ) Unless you feel that it should <br /> be something similar to zoning and that t4herefore you might <br /> wish to giva6it some legal prerogatives of appeal or court <br /> action. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: No, I believe that the Charter <br /> Commission had that rationale in mind. That the liquor <br /> licenses were such an item that it could be led to abuse so <br /> I think this is why they created a commission of this type <br /> of organization as far as the granting and denial of liquor <br /> Licenses. I guess they felt that as far as they were con- <br /> cerned that liquor was more like a regulatory type of business. <br /> If we do eliminate the commission as you recommend, how would <br /> you propose that the regulation of all these liquorlaw<s'a3b'e(Y <br /> implemented? <br /> MR. MOSS: May I say one thing here, Mr. Ishida? <br /> It seems to me the outgoing head of the liquor commission <br /> recently recommended that the liquor commission be abolished. <br /> Because, he said , that the staff did all the work and they <br /> merely rubber stamped what the staff had done anyway. That there <br /> wasp.not really _any( need to have the commission. I think this <br /> has a `great deal of influence on our thinking. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: This would be your rationale <br /> for eliminating the liquor commission? <br /> MR. ZUZAK: We think it can be done 'without <br /> the commission form. <br /> MR. SCHUTTE: Getting back to these comm- <br /> issions , I 'don ' t find myself clearly aware of what you are <br /> proposing. Just looking at your organizational chart and <br /> doing away with these other commissions or combining these <br /> various commissions under separate departments such as the <br /> department of public affairs which would handle the personnel , <br /> liquor, the Hawaii redevelopment, etc. , etc. And then the <br /> department of public service which would take care of the police, <br /> fire, safety, mass transit, etc. <br /> Are you saying, then, in presenting this <br /> organizational chart , are you suggesting that in combining <br /> these commissions under these various departments that we <br /> eliminate the commissions and the other department heads under <br /> the Mayor? <br /> 11 - <br />