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this particular person be involved in collective bargaining? <br /> Is it a year round job? <br /> MR. KONNO: Actually it is a year round job <br /> because those years that this individual would not be <br /> involved in negotiations he probably would be the contract <br /> interpreter for the county also. We believe that he would be <br /> involved in doing a heck of a lot of research into the area <br /> of collective bargaining. It really would be a time consuming <br /> position as far _as_ the individual concerned would be in charge <br /> of the collective bargaining. <br /> MR. TRULSON: Mr. Konno, at the present time <br /> the deputy director of personnel services represents Hawaii <br /> County and when he is not doing this then he is doing the job <br /> in the personnel administration or office of the county. Do <br /> you feel that the present system where this deputy director is <br /> doing the negotiating, that there is a conflict? <br /> MR. KONNO: We hate to make that kind of public <br /> statement that there is a conflict of interest. When we were <br /> trying tp put together our testimony to present to this commission <br /> we discussed the issue of possible conflict of interest of some- <br /> body involved in negotiating when that office has to determine <br /> who gets the promotions, who gets reallocated=-and womewhere inthe <br /> back of my mind we see a probability of some conflict of interest. <br /> MR. CADINHA: Mr. Konno, with regards to the <br /> water board. There were several statements made--that you just <br /> made--in this written handout that I would like clarification of, <br /> if I could. You say that the workers, themselves, are strongly <br /> in favor of bringing the department under the mayor's jurisdiction. <br /> Was any study done? How do we know that the workers feel that way? <br /> MR. KONNO: Well , we do meet with them. We have <br /> a monthly meeting and when this commission was appointed we had <br /> started talking about going back to the old union position of <br /> trying to get that department back into the county. From those <br /> who we represent we got the strong feeling that they would rather <br /> become part of the county and not be under the semi-autonomous <br /> body. <br /> MR. CADINHA: You mention that there is no <br /> knowledge by any of us of how money generated is spent. What do <br /> you mean by that? They have to file a budget annually. Where is <br /> there any deception? <br /> MR. KONNO: That may have been a general state- <br /> ment. Actually, a financial statement is required by any de- <br /> partment andwe are at liberty to take a look at it and possibly <br /> you could get information--general information--which is what we <br /> regard this as a general statement. In having to look at what <br /> happened to several of our members, we quite often wonder how <br /> the money they generate is being spent because if you take the <br /> number of equipment that is in the baseyard and the kind of equip- <br /> - 8 - <br />