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specific situations. I think we may have to include everything <br /> as Mr. Sensano was saying. . .I think the main intent is that if <br /> there is an appropriation of some kind, a program, and all of <br /> a sudden that program is non-existent yet remains on the books <br /> with the same appropriation then all we are saying is we direct <br /> the council to review it and if it is non-existent then change <br /> it, delete it. <br /> MR. TRULSON : If it is challenged _and somebody <br /> is asked to--corp counsel--anybody, is asked to for their <br /> interpretation for it, are they not going to go to the minutes <br /> . of this commission to see what our intentions are. <br /> MR. ODA: Well, like anything else, I suppose <br /> that can be done but I think I have a professional obligation <br /> to make it as clear as possible and not to fall back on <br /> minutes, if at all possible. <br /> MR. TRULSON: Then you feel that you can redraft <br /> it to make it more acceptable. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: If we need one at all. I don ' t <br /> think we need one, a Sunset provision in the charter. <br /> MR. ODA: Well, that is a decision for you <br /> folks to make. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Aren 't we actually mandating ,the <br /> council to review everything that is funded at a given time? <br /> So whether it be specific program or not, or whatever it is, <br /> whatever activity it is that is being funded, I think what we <br /> are trying to impose on them is that it is their duty to <br /> look at it and if it is fine, at least, they will continue <br /> it. If they think it is all through, if it is not beneficial , <br /> then if they can terminate it, fine. <br /> MR. SCHUTTE: Don ' t they already have that <br /> authority, Richard? <br /> MR. ISHIDA: But they are not mandated to do <br /> so, so they may just forget about it. That is the thing. <br /> I think thatiswhere the problem is abqut_ it Having the Sunset <br /> provision there, they arerequired to review everything, <br /> every type of- program that is being funded. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: Isn ' t this done right now <br /> through the adoption of the budget? They go through this <br /> budget item by item. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: To a certain extent they do that <br /> but I think that when a certain type of program is funded <br /> for maybe two, three years, I think they just forget about <br /> it. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: It does come back again in the <br /> budget, as I understand it. <br /> -28- <br />