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MR. ISHIDA: Yes, the three options. <br /> CHAIRMAN SCHUTTE: Why would he vote for no change <br /> and then vote for the options? <br /> MR. ODA: It ' s inconsistent with the vote of no <br /> change, right? <br /> MR. IS-iIDA: Well , no, I don ' t think it ' s inconsistent <br /> because they want no change, but , that no change has been <br /> defeated. <br /> MR. ODA: But they don ' t know that. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: So it has to be worded regardless of <br /> whether they voted yes or not, if you are given the alternative <br /> to vote for one of those three options , which one would you <br /> want? <br /> MR. TRULSON: Why should they be given two votes? <br /> That is in effect what -you are giving them. You 're giving <br /> them a second choice. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: That ' s right. <br /> MR. TRULSON: So why only should they get two choices? <br /> If you vote for yes, you only get one choice. I mean one <br /> choice as to what type of council makeup. I can vote yes or <br /> I can vote no up there to retain it and if I don ' t like that <br /> I can take my second choice. <br /> MR. ISHIDA.: That ' s right. <br /> MR. TRULSON: It doesn ' t seem fair. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Well , because to me it seems that if <br /> you go up and say. . .actually, we are presenting two ballots , <br /> okay, yes or no on the present system. The present system is <br /> defeated, okay. Now, we're giving them another ballot. Since <br /> we don 't have a system, which system do you want? That ' s my <br /> thinking. <br /> MR. ODA: Richard, supposing initially the number <br /> is six to four. Six on the top and four to the bottom, right? <br /> The options, everybody votes on the options under your proposal . <br /> The ten people who vote on the option. . .initially, six people <br /> said no, so there is a possibility that. . . <br /> MR. ISHIDA: No, so you don ' t count. After that <br /> that ' s pau. As far as counting the ballots is concerned, you <br /> don ' t go any further. <br /> MR. SENSANO: You don ' t know that ahead of time. <br /> MR. ODA: That ' s right, you don ' t know that ahead of. <br /> time. <br /> -37- <br />