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If you have an even number of voters. Say you have 23,000 straight, your chances are one out of 23 ,000 that you will have a tie vote, given an even distribution. You have zero chances out of 23, 001 . You have one chance out of 23,000 and you add them together andyou`-have one chance out of 46,000 of getting a tie vote. MR. SCHUTTE: Okay. What happens if you have as an example, if you have 15 that voted no change and you have 15 come down and vote for option one? Then what happens? MR. MOSS: You've locked that out because you say in the second question, the second amendment, if the charter is to be amended as determined by the vote on the proposition above. So the second section is null and void. It doesn ' t apply if it is voted down in the first question. MR. SENSANO: ,. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mss , you and a lot of people have followed this very closely and understand the reasoning. I , as a member of the commission, understand very well , how we are supposed to vote. But, I am thinking of the people who are not going to be exposed as much to this problem as we are and unless I miss my guess, the people who vote no, will not bother to go down because they say why should I go down , I already voted no. I don ' t want any change so why should I go down and vote for a change. Let us say the vote is 49-51 on the first yes or no. That is , let us say, 51% say they want a change and 49% say no, the chances are a great percentage of the 49% who said no are not going to go down and select an option down below. That ' s the only thing that I 'm afraid of. MR. MOSS: Mr. Sensano, as I understand it and the intent of 'separating it into two separate amendments, is the number of people who vote on the first amendment :does- not affect the determination of the majority of ' how many people vote on the second amendment, which is the options. I understand your argument;ithat some people who vote no will not bother to vote on the second question. But whether they don ' t vote will not determine the number necessary to get a majority on the second because i.t:'' is a second amendment and as I said, the Section 50-11 says the majority of the electors voting on the amendment. . .on THE amendment. Not in the total election. MR. OMONAKA: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Moss , the way we understand it, it is just one issue, not two. MR. SENSANO: Mr. Chairman. What I 'm afraid of, Mr. Moss, is let ' s say, the 49% voting on whether to amend the present charter, or not, let us say that 49% say they don ' t want to amend and they don ' t bother to go down below and vote. Are you saying that the majority of the 51% who said above that they are willing, thtt they . are willing, that they would like a change, that the majority of the 51% will determine which amended form will be adopted? -14 .