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CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: Practically speaking, for us, for <br /> this Charter Commission to even attempt to use lines other <br /> than what we have now, is really a fruitless effort. <br /> MR. ODA: I don ' t think we have enough information <br /> to work with it right now, unless. . I don ' t think this body <br /> has the time nor the wherewithal, the information to do anything, <br /> really. . .or, to intelligently come up with another type of <br /> districting other than what we have right now. It would come <br /> down to just guesswork, if we do that. <br /> CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: The only real districting we have <br /> now is this State Representative districting then, right? We <br /> don ' t have anything else. The 6 is a very arbitrary. . .not <br /> based on population, just an arbitrary districting because <br /> they are running at-large. <br /> MR. ODA: In 1980, for :example, according to this <br /> table, the County of Hawaii population is estimated to be <br /> 84, 700. In 1975 , it was estimated to be 75 , 300. At the time <br /> that the census was taken , back in 1970 , 63 , 000. So, assuming <br /> that every person who came into this county. . .they all spread <br /> out over four or five representative districts of the island, <br /> to kind of even it out, but you can ' t even assume that. <br /> CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: I don ' t know what you others feel , <br /> but the way I look at it, what we can do is getting very <br /> limited. <br /> MR. SAKATA: One thing we know is that we have had <br /> a population shift in the Kona area. <br /> MRS. KOBAYASHI : On the testimony for 9 Districts , <br /> has anyone really come out and said this is the boundary? <br /> MR. OMONAKA: There is no way we can do it. We don ' t <br /> have the time nor do we have the resource. By and large, most <br /> of the testimony was not for strictly nine. <br /> MR. ODA: What alternative you have is if you want <br /> to have a preliminary districting plan and then create a <br /> reapportionment commission, like some of the other counties <br /> have, who will have the specific job realigning the district <br /> boundaries in this county and devote full time to it after the <br /> 1980 census, then , that is another alternative. <br /> MR. OMONAKA: I would favor a 5 district, as the <br /> present house district, and go 2 at-large. And like counsel <br /> has said we could set up a reapportionment committee to take care of <br /> the situation after we get the 1980 census. <br /> CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: Are you talking in terms of 7 council <br /> seats? <br /> MR. OMONAKA: Yes. <br /> -5- <br />