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1 the management even more difficult. And I think that, <br />2 you know, the fire department here, if it wasn't the <br />3 fact that they go out and aggressively get grants from <br />4 the Feds -- mainly from the Fed -- but from other <br />5 entities, I think the fire department here would not be <br />6 near functioning at the level that it does now. I <br />7 think you have to give the management here a lot of <br />8 credit for what they do with not a real big budget. <br />9 But, again, you look at Maui, a lot smaller, but their <br />10 tax basis is a lot higher, so they're funded a lot <br />11 better. <br />12 Does that answer your question? <br />13 MR. PAVAO: Yeah, it does. <br />14 And just out of curiosity, on the other <br />15 islands, who governs the EMS? <br />16 MR. BECKER: The State funds the County here <br />17 for the EMS. On the other islands, I don't really know <br />18 if they fund private ambulance services or how that's <br />19 really done. I couldn't answer that question. <br />20 MR. PAVAO: No, but you said the EMS on the <br />21 other islands does not come under the fire department. <br />22 MR. BECKER: It does not. <br />23 MR. PAVAO: Who does it come under? <br />24 MR. BECKER: I don't know. <br />25 CHR. ONO: I think in the case of the City and <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />