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CLARKSON: All right. Thank you. <br />IKEDA: You know, Zendo, we have a testimony from a Mr. Wayde Young. <br />KERN: Yes. <br />IKEDA: And he stated the same thing that Ms. Nomura had just stated so how are you guys <br />going to correct some of the concerns that they have? <br />KERN: I had a long conversation with Mr. Young twice, and, you know, he said he—you know, <br />he didn't show up. You know, he said he's like I sent my letter in, that's where I'm at, you <br />know, it's something that we need, it's a challenged location. So, some of the concerns about the <br />riff raff element, how do we the park right down there in Kurtistown has a lot of that as well, <br />so it's, it's challenging. Obviously, there will be a fence. There will be a gate. They currently <br />have a fence, and they have a gate. I'm currently, I've lived in Kurtistown for quite a while, and <br />since the Kilauea eruption, I've been back in Kurtistown. And, so I come out of Kuauli Road <br />every day and drive in there every day right now, and when they're not open, the gate's closed, <br />and so those types of people that are maybe going to jump a gate or hang out, I mean that's just <br />the challenge that we have, and well, so he lives on site. They can do, you know, flood lighting, <br />motion sensor lighting, and obviously it'd be gate and fence to keep those folks out. <br />Unfortunately, there is a certain element not even related to the church that, you know, travels up <br />and down those roads, and the Kurtistown Park is a good example of that. They congregate <br />underneath there. <br />I think with having that 50 -foot buffer and it being set back for this one, that will, you know <br />eliminate somebody trying to come around there and hang out and, you know, squat. I think <br />again fencing, lighting, presence, and good neighbor policy of, you know, if somebody sees <br />something, talk about it. You know, make a report, and, you know, at the end of my <br />conversation with Mr. Young, he said, hey, you know, it is what it is. Let's try to do our best to <br />work together as a community. It is needed out there. We would like to, you know, try to <br />address these concerns to the best of our ability, and I think the Applicant's intent is to do that, <br />and if you have any other specific questions related to any of the issues, I'd be happy to answer <br />those. <br />IKEDA: No, I do support the project. It's just that the concern that Mr. Young had and <br />Ms. Nomura, so, I just wondered if we can help. <br />KERN: And, I think at the end of the day what, what they're trying to do is to actually help that. <br />How do we change that? That element exists. Well, obviously as he said, giving somebody <br />food, that's a beautiful thing. But, changing somebody's mindset, educating them, helping them, <br />empowering them, that's how we ultimately change that element, and without function and <br />services like this, it's not going to happen. We're going to see it go the other way. So, nothing <br />is perfect, you know. This is Big Island. This is our community. But, I think that the good and <br />the positive impact will outweigh any of the challenges that exist. <br />EXHIBIT D <br />12 <br />