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IKEDA: And so that's—that's my feeling because I'm thinking about you guys because I <br />remember the problem when I didn't approve with a lot of the things you guys did on the Puna <br />CDP, and so, but I went with it. We voted for it. So, I follow it. And, this is what I'm saying <br />that are you guys open to the whole area? It might change, and that's all I'm saying. I want to <br />hear your guys' comments. <br />OLSON: I mean the document itself is 12 going on 13 years old. We should have started an <br />entirely new planning process already for the whole area. I mean that hasn't happened. The <br />document has outlived its usefulness and, yes, I mean, there is going to be, we want there to be <br />more development. I mean, we have to look at a lot, a lot of things that we didn't look in the <br />CDP. We really didn't investigate the hazard zones, but that doesn't mean that the people who <br />live there now and the people have bought all those out, tens of thousands of lots that are out <br />there, are gonna simply vanish. That isn't going to—the deed's been done. So, we have to, we <br />have to make a plan that balances some way or another the hazards that are there, the necessity <br />of providing work and recreation for the people who choose to live there. I mean, we've all <br />[inaudible] in Hawaii. We know how we—we know the dog that brought us. So, going <br />forward, we have to weave our way through this. The bypass is no longer a 55 mile an hour, it's <br />no longer a 45 mile an hour, it's a 35 mile an hour road, and that's just, that's just the way it is. <br />IKEDA: I want to hear from Rene because I want to hear her opinion because—Rene? <br />SIRACUSA: Oh, I'm sorry. <br />OLSON: You're up again. <br />IKEDA: What's your opinion about if we approve, you know, you guys want us to approve <br />something like <br />SIRACUSA: I'm sorry I'm having trouble hearing you. <br />OLSON: She's hard of hearing. You'll have to yell at her. <br />IKEDA: I'll give you a hand sign. <br />SIRACUSA: You have to hold them up. <br />IKEDA: No, what happened is, if we approve this, it might open up commercialism for the <br />whole area. Are you okay with this? <br />OLSON: The development well—let me restate this for her so she can hear it. Okay, the area <br />that we designated for economic development for Pahoa <br />SIRACUSA: Yeah. <br />OLSON: You're happy with that? <br />EXHIBIT E <br />17 <br />