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<br />LIM: The Hualālai Resort side there are north and south parking areas totaling about 77 stalls. <br /> <br />VITOUSEK: Thanks. Yeah, I have a couple of questions about that. Is the requirement to open <br />it up to public after the acceptance of the preservation plan a legal requirement or is that <br />something that the developer has decided to do? Is there a condition existing that says the <br />preservation plan must be accepted prior to opening it up to public? <br /> <br />KNABLE: Just one sec. If I could open up the comprehensive public access plan. <br /> <br />LIM: I don’t think that that says particular key in the condition itself, but it has been always part <br />of the discussion with the cultural groups and the State Historic Preservation Division. Part of <br />the problem on the oceanfront area fronting the Kaūpūlehu Development side is that there is a ʻ <br />series of conservation subzones that were enacted during the initial approvals of the project <br />through the State Land Use Commission, and many of the archaeological sites and the areas <br />fronting the shoreline, which are pretty dangerous, were subject to these buffer agreements. And <br />there is also an integrated resource management plan that was agreed to by the project owners <br />and the community and accepted by the County as part of this. So that all ties into it. So that’s <br />why Jason was saying it’s not like your typical let’s-go-to-the-sandy-beach-and-go-into-the- <br />water kind of a place; this is more of a pretty important cultural asset for the community. In the <br />original Land Use Commission proceedings, they had the area kūpuna, they had, Hannah <br />Springer was involved, Leina‘ala Lightner who is Aunty Lei that Jason is referring to, they are <br />all involved in the Kaūpūlehu Development Monitoring Committee, which was a reqʻuirement of <br />the State Land Use Commission approval. So they proceeded through the initial stages of the <br />project, meeting with the developer, and essentially approving all of these various cultural and <br />access plans. <br /> <br />VITOUSEK: Okay. In reading this we see that the only real requirement for opening public <br />access is after the completion of the golf course, but I didn’t see any updates on plans for the golf <br />course. Is there a time frame on the 18-hole golf course in the area? <br /> <br />LIM: No, no, and we proceeded ahead with development of the various parking lots and <br />interpretive center prior to the development of the golf course because we know that was <br />important to the community. <br /> <br />VITOUSEK: Absolutely. Would you mind giving us just a little bit more information on the <br />preservation plan? I see that in your application you guys submitted a copy of that, but that <br />didn’t make its way to us, and I was just wondering if we could have a little bit of history on the <br />correspondence between SHPD. When was the plan originally submitted to SHPD? <br /> <br />KNABLE: The plan was originally submitted in late 2013. The architect, or, excuse me, the <br />archaeologist, at that time followed up I believe a few months later, and then it has just been <br />continual follow-up by the developer over the past five years, including our office. We followed <br />up in April and May of this year and then also earlier this month. <br /> <br />VITOUSEK: And who submitted it? <br /> <br />11 <br />EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />