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Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />And so please if you have any other suggestions let us know where <br />you're at and then we will go there. <br />Well I'm looking at 5.5 Advisory Opinions and I frankly don't <br />understand a. At the conclusion of the investigation or the <br />investigatory hearing whichever is later, the board will render and <br />advisory opinion in accordance with rule 4.9, unless the board <br />renders an advisory opinion? That doesn't make sense to me. <br />Well if I could respond. This is why in my bottom line conclusion <br />we should just get rid of ours and go with Maui's because ours are <br />much more difficult to read and fully comprehend. Is it an <br />investigation? Is it a hearing? What is an advisory opinion? We <br />don't call it a complaint. A person who seeks an advisory opinion <br />might be coming about their job right. Their new job after <br />they...might be something else. It is really confusing to me. I like <br />Maui. It's much clearer and I know this is kind of a broad side to <br />you all here I'm saying well my solution has got it all in with <br />Maui. Maybe if you need more time to review it at our next <br />meeting too we can say look...we looked at Maui. And I'm going <br />to incorporate so you'll have the whole document at the next <br />meeting. You can read it...except for those 2 changes or that we <br />talked about...you can read it and say I don't like that. <br />Yeah so this reason why we need to make amendments right <br />because that 5.5 a. is clearly unclear right so that's reason we're <br />doing this and how it got in there...we really don't know. In this <br />version but it's there now and we really...I agree with you that <br />that's not a sentence that should stay in there. <br />I think it mentions things that I haven't heard mentioned or uses <br />different language too so...I have no objection to...all I wrote <br />down was that it was too broad. It was just too broad. <br />Actually there's a typo in the proposed...oh the...when you <br />actually look at the rules...the rules says...unless the board finds it <br />necessary to conduct a formal hearing before rendering an advisory <br />opinion. So if you read that, that makes sense. <br />But even then I mean it is old fashioned stilted. You know a <br />regular person is...the Maui rules to me are much friendlier. <br />And that's really what we are shooting for...user friendly. You <br />know so that a citizen comes here and reads the rules and <br />understands them and I have to say us board members as well. <br />20 <br />