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Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />information obtained in the course of the investigation of the <br />complaint. <br />Can you please tell me what... <br />That's on the Maui...on the Honolulu... <br />Yeah just the... <br />Page 11 of the chart. <br />Page 11...I'm sorry. <br />Oh page 11 okay. Thank you. <br />Well that goes to that thing we were talking about earlier right. <br />Under our rules...there is the current rules...there's this <br />investigatory function where the Maui way it's much more quasi- <br />judicial review of what's happened right. And we don't say for <br />example that we're going to be the prosecutor. Now Honolulu is <br />different...they have the board but into addition to the board they <br />have a full time director right and he has a staff. Well he acts as <br />the prosecutor, the board acts as a Judge. But I don't think it's <br />very appropriate for us or even our corp. counsel to take on those <br />roles. I don't know maybe when they wrote our rules for Hawaii <br />County the anticipated more funding...I don't know. But the fact <br />is what we do is really reflected in what Maui does. We don't <br />have that function. We don't do that. So that's a philosophical <br />question. Which I felt should be left out because we're going with <br />this approach of Maui where you just have the hearings...informal <br />or formal hearing. But that's open. I think one thing that <br />would...we could do is you know if I type it up right with the <br />changes and leave it with just the Maui you can look at the Maui <br />and then really get a...I mean what the whole draft is and get a feel <br />for it. <br />Yeah. I strongly support that as well...and then you know we can <br />always...we will still have the drafts here that include the <br />Honolulu and the Kauai...the parts that are in the Honolulu and in <br />Kauai rules and if we do feel once we get the whole thing that we <br />need to add a specific section...then we can always still add those <br />to our new rules and regulations. <br />Madam Chair if I may. When I first got these rules I read through <br />them and they were kind of Frankenstein in that they've ex'd out <br />things and added in things and it's... Would be nice to have <br />22 <br />