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CLARKSON: If we're allowed to. So, this is a large, complicated project. My preference <br />would be to just take these amendments, go quickly through the ones that we can all agree on as <br />being reasonable either—and then try and get into the ones that cause disagreement. <br />Okay, does any Commissioner wish to discuss Condition D which is the change, change in the <br />number of residential units from 518 to 700? <br />IKEDA: Can I speak on that? You know, that's one of the conditions that I don't support. What <br />happened is this was kind of aI know it started before the Matsuura's bought the property. It <br />belonged to Steve Yamashiro, and he was going to build a University Heights with 710 or 750 <br />units and the community opposed that, and so the, the Council at the time lowered it to 518. So, <br />that's the reason you got the number 518. It wasn't pulled out of a hat. And, so I thought it was <br />pretty high at that time, but since it was passed and they are allowed 518, I would like to see that <br />it doesn't change. I still say that at 518 because that's what the community really supported. So, <br />I don't support that Condition D. <br />CLARKSON: Any further discussion on Condition D? <br />REPLOGLE: I have something. Somebody spoke earlier on this, and they said that even with <br />the 700, it's under the permissible lots per area math or whatever you call it. <br />CLARKSON: Density? <br />REPLOGLE: And density, okay, yes, thank you. Would 700 be that much greater than five <br />[hundred] in terms of density? I mean, I know it's bigger. <br />CLARKSON: Forty percent. <br />REPLOGLE: Okay, but they are sacrificing commercial area for that so <br />CLARKSON: That's correct. <br />REPLOGLE: It's somewhat of a tradeoff I just want to understand it good. <br />IKEDA: Can, can I chime in? Okay, I think they were saying something like 35 per acre, so you <br />can imagine you're going to put 35 acres on, 35 units on one acre. So, you're talking stories <br />now. You're not talking about individual homes. You're talking about three stories or <br />something like that. To go up because you need parking for all the apartments. And, that's what <br />their talking about. It's not individual homes because I don't think you could put 35 homes on a <br />one -acre parcel. <br />YEE: I'll also chime in in that. You know, part of the difficulties in creating, increasing the <br />housing supply on Hawaii Island is, you know, it's a supply issue that we have, and they're not <br />just talking about low-income affordable homes, but, you know, they're talking market, too, but, <br />you know, clearly their intention is to build more affordable homes for families, and in the bigger <br />EXHIBIT C <br />24 <br />