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picture of planning of our housing need, having more units in an urban area is exactly what
<br />Planning is trying to push for. Because if not here, then where? So, I cannot underline enough
<br />that I can understand years ago there was a certain feeling from the Council for a certain plan.
<br />Well, the thing is that when you're coming in for, to want to change the conditions, it's time to
<br />relook at what makes sense today, and understanding our needs, you know, from housing, I'm
<br />just going to reiterate that the need for 700 units exists in an area that if they can get all the other
<br />water issues and stuff figured out, it's what the city, the County really wants to have from a
<br />planning standpoint.
<br />CLARKSON: Okay
<br />IKEDA: I want to counter that, okay?
<br />CLARKSON: Oh, go ahead.
<br />IKEDA: You know, I think the Director doesn't realize, is that this, even with 500 units, this is,
<br />I think it's probably the biggest subdivision in Hilo. I think if you put up a map or you know
<br />where they had that map, it's bigger than any of the subdivisions in that area. I don't know any
<br />other subdivision in my district or in the Kaumana District that has 500 units. Nowhere. I think
<br />if they, the Director was really serious about looking at density, we should look at Downtown
<br />Hilo and have the people move back to Downtown Hilo, and the thing that's holding the people
<br />back is there's no parking, because I tried to help the Downtown Association.
<br />CLARKSON: Is there any further discussion on this proposed amendment D? I think we're
<br />going to have to vote on every amendment as we go through this. I don't think we can keep
<br />track. So, at this time, I'd like a motion for action on amendment D.
<br />IKEDA: Okay, I move that we delete Condition D from thisI'd like to maintain the current
<br />Condition D, the 518 units.
<br />CLARKSON: Okay, is there a second? There being no second, that motion dies. Is there any
<br />other motion on amendment D that any Commissioner would like to offer at this time? Hmm?
<br />HALL: No, I was going to say I think that just means it's a favorable for now and then just
<br />move to the next one and then we can bunch them all together, unless there's an unfavorable,
<br />then we can go and amend it. How about that?
<br />CLARKSON: So you're saying
<br />HALL: So, if you guys, and if you guys with E as well, then, you know, you guys can say,
<br />make a motion to agree with the Director on D, E, and, you know, whichever one that—
<br />CLARKSON: —Well, what if there's no, if there's no majority for D, we leave it aside, when
<br />are we going to find out what—there might, if we try to combine these amendments, there might
<br />be a majority for D, a minority for E, a majority, I mean, somebody will want to vote. We can't
<br />combine them all. We have to go through these, in my view, one at a time, and either approve
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