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40 feet long, I mean, 40 yards long, 30 feet wide, and it would have to be filled, and it's about 20 <br />feet deep, 25 feet deep, that little gully, getting to our property. <br />CLARKSON: I see. <br />KERN: So, that was, that was the biggest challenge with that. <br />YEE: Zendo, I want to confirm that in 2009 when the Special Permit was issued, it was issued <br />for a commercial kitchen, but also for the feed business and other related things. It wasn't just <br />for the commercial kitchen. <br />KERN: To my knowledge, and I was not part of that, and at the different location, to my <br />knowledge, yes, it encompassed the entirety of it. <br />YEE: Right, so, generally the business he's at, he needed a Special Permit then, so I would make <br />assumption that if he was going to do a similar business again, he must have known that a <br />Special Permit was necessary. <br />QUINN: Mr. Yee, the house and the property that we were own was owned by the most <br />honorable Yoso Kuwahara. He ran a 10 -acre anthurium farm over there, so he was following the <br />guidelines of agricultural -zoned property. When we came in, the most honorable Yoso <br />Kuwahara rented us that warehouse, no Special Permit, and we ran that business for eight to nine <br />years, then we went to get certified kitchen. Mr. Kuwahara released the interest in the property. <br />We took it over, and that's when we got the Special Permit, was for the certified kitchen, and <br />that's when they told us we had to have the certified, I mean, the Special Permit, but prior to that, <br />nine or ten years with Mr. Kuwahara in that house living there, it's his residence, he rented us <br />that little section of the garage. We did not have a Special Permit. The County, State never <br />came down and told us or Mr. Kuwahara. It wasn't until Mr. Kuwahara moved to Hilo and we <br />wanted to turn that house into a certified kitchen, then the Special Permit was required, but not <br />prior to that. <br />YEE: Correct, and I wasn't around then, but <br />HALL: —Sorry to interrupt. Point of order. I think we're going into the weeds a little bit. That <br />we're talking about a whole different application, a different time. We should refocus on this <br />application and this request. <br />QUINN: Well, Mr. Darrow felt that it was important to bring to Mr. Yee some kind of <br />information that might have disputed what I had just said, and that is the God's honest truth <br />under oath. <br />YEE: Well, and that I'm going to add that the Special Permit directly addresses not just the <br />commercial kitchen, okay? <br />QUINN: Okay. <br />EXHIBIT D <br />15 <br />