2019-03-05 Kailua Village Design Commission Minutes

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be too small on the canopy that would be 21 feet high on a 20-foot rise off the roadway. Asked by Commissioner Van Pernis, Commissioner Sullenberger suggested 18 inches. Commissioner Van Pernis amended his motion to state that height of the logo and the lettering be 18 inches and twelve inches, respectively.  Typical Tenant Sign Chairman Roth summarized that more details were submitted; however, the plan would still allow the tenants to use their fonts and colors without the Commission review. Commissioner Hetherington asked whether the background design was a generic concept where each tenant would be able to choose their own color and motif. Mr. Vierra responded that the color and the motif would be standard, and that the proposal was to give the tenants an allowable range of size with a maximum height of 18 inches. Also in response to Commissioner Hetherington’s question, he said that the color of the background was not determined yet, and that it would be selected from the approved building color palette of browns and beiges so that it would not stand out in high contrast. Upon inquiry by Commissioner Van Pernis, Mr. Vierra clarified that the particular red and white color samples on Sheet T-2 were for Safeway signs; however, their proposal was that their tenants be able to use their brand colors, which might include reds and whites. Ms. Schatz added that those individual brand colors would be allowed only within the designated sign area, and that the background would be kept the same for all tenant signs in a color from the approved color palette for the buildings. Commissioner Van Pernis said that he wanted to confirm that the tenants would not be allowed to use the red and the white, even though they were provided in the plan, unless their brand colors were as such. Ms. Schatz reiterated that reds and whites would not be used outside of their brand because those were not in the approved color palette. Chairman Roth noted that the tenants would not have to come in for the Commission review as long as they followed these proposed guidelines. He questioned whether the Commission would want to allow that much flexibility. He added that he generally liked the master plan concept for consistency; however, in this case, because fonts and colors were not defined, the Commission would be giving up its oversight in that aspect. Commissioner Kern commented that she liked the proposed concept where all tenant signs would be framed the same way with the design element, which might soften the mixed look of different logos and colors. Commissioner Hetherington agreed, but expressed his concern about allowing as many as 20 stores to use whatever colors. He suggested that Commission’s approval be only for the design concept and not for individual signs. In response to Commissioner Sullenberger’s question about the proposed size and height restrictions, Mr. Vierra said that some logos might come in a stack design rather than a lineal design, in which case there could be two lines of nine-inch high lettering. Commissioner Sullenberger pointed out that the current proposal would allow the signs to be at varied heights within 18 inches, as well as different lengths. He said that he would like to see uniformity in size of the background throughout the project by specifying not only the height but also the length, which could be determined based on the 18-inch total height and the 22-square foot designated 9