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subdivide them into two individual lots without allowing ohanas on those individual lots which I see there is a restriction in the proposed conditions for this zone change to prohibit ohana dwellings on the newly-created lots. So, given that, I would not disagree with the Applicant's countering to that issue. SPRINGER: Thanks, Mr. Emler. Mr. Yuen, can you help me with this? YUEN: Sure. This wasn't an easy application for us to look at because it involves a collision of two different policies. One, the housing policy where we are trying to create additional housing opportunities within Kailua-Kona, specifically, and, that may tend to alleviate the traffic problem to some degree because it enables people to look closer to work places, rather than people living in South Kona, Ocean View, Honoka'a, even Kalaoa, places more distant from the typical commuting pattern, which is into Kailua-Kona from the rural and suburban areas of Kona. On the other hand, we are creating additional lots that feed into Palani Road, which is quite inadequate in its current design. On balance, because of the fact that you did have a potential for the same number of lots from, the same number of houses under the ohana zoning possibility, the fact that we are, we continue to think that housing opportunities within Kailua-Kona are part of the traffic solution rather than necessarily part of the traffic problem, we do recommend approval of this. The toughest part of this one actually was at Palani, isn't very good, and to just add, and adding more people that then feed off of Palani. We did work on trying to see if there was a way to make Pamahoa Place a through road with a back, some kind of back connection to the other subdivision roads in the azea but that, it just doesn't pan out. And we could get into the nifty-gritty of this, but it didn't, we worked on it and we couldn't find a way to do it. SPRINGER: Mr. Chair? FUJIKAWA: Go ahead, Ms. Springer. SPRINGER: I've missed the answer to this question that I'm going to ask him in the background materials that I appreciate being referred to it. But do we know how many accidents, including minor fender-benders, occurred between Palani junction and the bottom of Liliuokalani Gazdens? YUEN: I did look at this one time in connection with another project, but I couldn't give you any statistics. It's something that the Police Department keeps accident records. And the State and Public Works have access to these that, they have accident records by mile marker and going back, you know, many, many years; and so you can pull up the accidents for any particular stretch of road. There are fatalities along Palani Road. As I recall, the worst sections are the S-curve at the top. I was, you know, when I looked at this I thought that there would be more, to tell you the truth, but I guess people 7