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<br /> HIATT: Thanks very much, Rodney. With respect to each blowup, is each <br /> <br /> lot numbered so that we know the number of lots at issue in that camp? <br /> KUBOTA: Yes, the photo shows that the lots were numbered 1 through 19, <br /> corresponding with each of the camp houses that were in existence at the time. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And what's the date of the photo`? <br /> KUBOTA: The date of the photo is August 19, 1950. <br /> HIATT: Okay. So for Kainole camp, what you're seeking from the <br /> Planning Department is recognition of those 19pre-existing lots? <br /> KUBOTA: Correct. <br /> HIATT: Okay. So any doubt that those were in existence and were <br /> occupied prior to 1944? <br /> KUBOTA: No, there's no doubt. In the Record of Appeal, if the Board would <br /> want to leaf through it, we did other research and contacted residents and got affidavits <br /> that the camps were in existence prior to that date. Also we submitted, I believe, <br /> insurance valuation photos. And in some camps situations, we've submitted census <br /> records which show that as of June 30, 1944, there were these nwnber of camp houses in <br /> existence. <br /> HIATT: Now that's already in evidence, so I'll move on. What does <br /> Exhibit 3A show? <br /> KUBOTA: Exhibit 3A is a similar aerial photo taken the same date, <br /> August 19, 1950. This is a photo of Maukaloa camp which is on, located just makai of <br /> Kaupakuea Homesteads and above Richard Ha's banana operation. This is about, 1 <br /> would say, about a mile up from the highway in Pepeekeo. <br /> HIATT: And, again, are the lots numbered on 3A? <br /> KUBOTA: Yes, the lots are numbered 1 through 52. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And each one of those were also occupied prior to 1944? <br /> KUBOTA: Correct. Again, the record on appeal shows the evidence that we <br /> submitted to the County that established the existence as of 1944. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And then Exhibit 4A, can you tell us what that shows, <br /> please? <br /> 8 <br /> <br />