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KUBOTA: Correct. <br /> HIATT: And Exhibit 10A, which camp is that? <br /> KUBOTA: Exhibit l0A is also in the Ookala area. If you follow along on the <br /> old highway, you come up to Kukui Camp; and that's one of three camps in the Ookala <br /> area. <br /> HIATT: And two vacant lots and two commercial lots, correct? <br /> KUBOTA: No, actually, I think there are three vacant lots and one, this one <br /> right here in the corner, Lot No. 1 was the clubhouse. Oh, I'm sorry, two vacant lots, one <br /> garage lot and one clubhouse lot. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And Ookala Camp? <br /> KUBOTA: Ookala Camp is the third of the camps in the Ookala area. And, <br /> again, this overlay, Mr. Hiatt has circled the lots which were vacant at the time. This one <br /> looks a little bit different, cause there it looks like there's houses on it. But according to <br /> <br /> the Real Property Tax information, it was vacant. And I think it's just because the houses <br /> were all fallen in and dilapidated at the time and abandoned. <br /> <br /> This large lot here was vacant at the time of the application, granted lot status and had <br /> since been sold on the open market. <br /> ISHADO: Mr. Chairman, as to the last point <br /> FOX: Mr.Ishado. <br /> ISHADO: I'd like to raise an objection. I, you know, I think that's just <br /> speculation on Mr. Kubota's part as to whether or not the house was there or not. <br /> HIATT: Let me try to answer that. We'll withdraw the last question, and <br /> F11 try to solve, solve the issue by a following question. <br /> Mr. Kubota, can you turn to Exhibit 11, sorry, what was the last one we were looking at? <br /> Was it Ookala? Yeah, it was Ookala. So, can you turn Exhibit 11 C. <br /> And in looking at that, can you tell the Board, generally, what the "C" series of exhibits <br /> show`? <br /> KUBOTA: The "C" series of exhibits are, are true and correct copies of Real <br /> Property Tax Office printouts. And they were printouts made in 1996, which is the first <br /> <br /> year after the camp lot recognitions were granted. And if you flip down to Parcel 16 on <br /> 13 <br /> <br />