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Mr. Goodenow: <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Is the petitioner on the phone now or? <br />No, we were... <br />I'm sorry, another matter. Does anyone have any objection for us <br />to allow a petitioner to appear...I guess testify and listen to the <br />proceedings...? <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: And participate... <br />Mr. Goodenow: And participate in the proceedings by phone? <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: That's Koohan Paik-Mander is the one who made the request so. <br />It's up to the Board. <br />Mr. Goodenow: Chair's supposed to speak last. So I don't know if anyone has a <br />comment. <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Point of order on the...with respect to public testimony on the <br />petition. I'm unclear whether we closed public testimony at the <br />last hearing or not. <br />Well that's very astute of you. As Chair, I just was going to allow <br />to err on the side of caution to allow it. But technically, it could be <br />argued right that we close the public testimony. But as it is on the <br />agenda...I think the Sunshine Law...we should go ahead and... <br />Mr. Wiseman: I'll defer to the Chair. <br />Mr. Goodenow: Thank you. But thank you for raising that. Any other comments <br />though? <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: Regarding testimony...by telephone? I think there's a matter of <br />fairness and also of identity verification. So I hesitate to set her <br />precedent. That's my only comment. <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />I have with respect to telephone testimony, I've handled many <br />requests as a Judge in my career. However, testimony by <br />telephone 1. There has to be a designated place...a reliable place <br />where that person is testifying. For example...just yesterday I <br />heard testimony in a case I'm still handling. And they go into the <br />court...or they go into an office. So they cannot be...how do we <br />know someone's not in a mental institution or a prison for <br />example. You know which has happened. Alright this is my <br />concern that the person be in a place that can be relied upon as <br />2 <br />