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<br /> <br />Page 10 <br />1 <br />of stuck in a catch-22 situation, given the grievance <br />2 <br />process and the personnel who are involved in the <br />3 <br />grievance process, and the personnel who are involved in <br />4 <br />your case. Is that correct? <br />5 <br />MR. KEOPUHIWA: Correct. <br />6 <br />MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Yeah. <br />7 <br />And I certainly appreciate the situation that <br />8 <br />you're in. The process has been going on for a period <br />9 <br />of time, hasn't it? <br />10 <br />MR. KEOPUHIWA: Yes. <br />11 <br />MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Yeah. And did I hear <br />12 <br />there was an attempt made at mediation at some point in <br />13 <br />the process? <br />14 <br />MR. KEOPUHIWA: It was fairly early on. And <br />15 <br />they -- <br />16 <br />MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Without saying how it <br />17 <br />ended up, there was an attempted mediation, and then <br />18 <br />the case went forward after that? <br />19 <br />MR. KEOPUHIWA: Correct. <br />20 <br />MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Yeah. Okay. All right. <br />21 <br />Thank you, Mr. Keopuhiwa. I appreciate the <br />22 <br />situation that you're in, given the people involved. <br />23 <br />That's a concern. Is there any provision in the fire <br />24 <br />department rules or the union rules that would provide <br />25 <br />for personnel having themselves removed from the <br /> <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br /> <br />